How NOT to get robbed

[kyuuketsuki]

How to not get mugged? Look like you are insane. Works like a charm. 
 
Also learn martial arts... 

 

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How to not get mugged? Look like you are insane. Works like a charm. 

x2. Hasn't failed me yet.

 

[JamesMcProgger]

we should start a thread about "how to get robbed" now.

 

[buffalowings]

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we should start a thread about "how to get robbed" now.

that's lame... it should be titled, how to rob/de-moneyfi someone

 

[JamesMcProgger]

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that's lame... it should be titled, how to rob/de-moneyfi someone

but then it would be a guide of "how to become monster cables and sell beats"

 

[Br777]

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but then it would be a guide of "how to become monster cables and sell beats"
 

 
Zing!
 
 
honestly if i were concerned about being robbed, i would probably carry a money clip with about 20 $1 bills stuffed in it. 
if someone tries to rob me, whip out the money clip, wave it around, and then throw it as hard as you can and run the other way.
 
the crook will follow the money, not you. if they still dont yeild.. just give up the gear, and go pout for a while.
 
i mean really... theyre either gonna rob you with a weapon or intimidation.
if they have a weapon, the last thing i want to do is pull another weapon unless my day job is russian special forces.  youre just asking to land yourself in the hospital.
are the number of possible consequences of fighting back really worth it?
 
if they dont have or appear not to have a weapon, do i really want to risk any number of nasty ways this could escalate by pulling a knife or gun, just over saving some headphone gear or whatever else i have on me.  i mean if you really think youre gonna stab someone so they quit robbing you, you'd better be ready to do some pretty serious damage.  same with a gun... especially a gun.. i mean if you pull that gun, and they do ANYTHING but run, youre gonna have to shoot.. thats a pretty darn big deal.
 
 again i just ask myself.. is saving audio gear really worth going down that road..

 

[Xcellent]

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same with a gun... especially a gun.. i mean if you pull that gun, and they do ANYTHING but run, youre gonna have to shoot.. thats a pretty darn big deal
 
 again i just ask myself.. is saving audio gear really worth going down that road..

 
You can always shoot them in the leg

. Or buy the Sony XB1000 and create a shockwave.
 
 

 

[Maverickmonk]

Planning on shooting to wound is a terrible idea for two reasons: 1) that's a pretty good incentive for the BG to return fire, and most people prefer not to have bullets flying towards them. 2) It's still considered assault with a deadly weapon in most cases, and unless legal use of deadly force was warrented, you're in almost as much trouble as if you would have thoughroughly ventilated the guy.
 
My view: Is it worth it to kill a man because he wanted your toys? No. But is it be worth it to have the option to respond with deadly force IF the guy is giving you the impression that he is going to kill/harm you anyway? (Guy seems like he's strung out on crack, acting erratic, etc.) YES. My stuff isn't worth anyone's life, but noone gets to decide if my life is worth someone elses but me. It's my life, the only people who can legally take that from me are a jury of my peers. While I would never kill someone over a thing/things, I beleive that if the situation gives me reason to be in fear of me/mine (mine being people in close relation to me) then yes, I feel that the use of deadly force is morally and legally warrented.
 
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You can always shoot them in the leg

. Or buy the Sony XB1000 and create a shockwave.
 
 

 

 

[marvin]

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if they still dont yeild.. just give up the gear, and go pout for a while.

 
Doesn't work like that. If the mugger's willing to chase your ass down, he's going to be one angry dude and you're going to be fairly unlikely to get out of the situation physically unharmed. There's a reason why the police stress compliance as the preferred option when dealing with criminals like muggers. The material cost is generally low (under a couple thousand dollars for most of us) and bodily harm is rare.

 

[Uncle Erik]

Limit the amount you carry when you go into a potentially dangerous situation.

When I go to Mexico, I leave my wallet, credit cards, watch, and cellphone in the car. I only take about $50 cash (in different pockets, too) and my passport. If someone demands the cash, they can have it. They won't get anything I don't have.

You can always tell them something like, "I'm unemployed. This is all I have."

I do the same any time I go somewhere sketchy. Keep your exposure as low as possible. A mugger might be disappointed if you don't have much, but they usually won't hurt you if you give them everything you have and offer no resistance.

 

[mralexosborn]

I will try to reiterate my past statements: the goal of a CCW is not to shoot anyone who asks for money. You should be able to flash a weapon without waving it around to deter an attack. Think about it, if you saw someone carrying a gun wouldn't you be hesitant to approach them with malice being your intent? If someone is "insane" enough to carry a weapon, who's to say they aren't insane enough to use it for something minor. Doubt is a powerful thing my friends...
 
But Uncle Erik and his silly thing called logic are very much right. But guns are just so gosh darned cool. 

 

[marvin]

Generally speaking, a legally carried concealed pistol makes for very poor deterrence from getting attacked in the first place. Mainly because concealed is, well, concealed. It's almost trivially easy for most males to pack all sorts of hardware without a noticeable visual tell.

Tactically speaking, "flashing your gat" is about as dumb of a move as you can make. It also has the distinction of being a legally questionable practice.

 

[cswann1]

Lots of good stuff here. Avoiding trouble is the single best thing a person can do. Stay out of bad areas and if you are out and about at night alone,  either don't stop till you are where you're going or if you have to stop, make sure it's a place with people and good light.
 
I carry the pistol I pictured earlier with me at all times.  I'm also about 6'1" 260lbs and probably don't fit the "profile" of what a predator is looking for.  And if someone ever gets the drop on me with a gun, he's welcome to whatever I have, even my car. I can always get more stuff.
 
I really don't carry the gun so much out of fear of being robbed.  There are people in the world that simply snap sometimes.  You hear about them every now and then.  If ever I find myself in the path of such a person, I'll put him down or go down shooting.

 

[maverickronin]

1. Avoid trouble.
 
There are many ways to do this but limiting what you carry and where you go isn't always practical.  It can help if you look tough as well, but not everyone can or wants to.  Some people find me intimidating looking so that's my first line of defense.  If something does happen, you need to gauge the situation quickly.  What is at stake?  Property, life, or both?
 
2. Learn some basics of unarmed combat.
 
Even the average criminal doesn't know jack about this, and you don't have to be huge, strong, or a master who has dedicated your life to martial arts to defend yourself against the average thug.  Proper application of judo can allow a 100 lb woman to defend herself against an untrained man of 6" in height and 250+ lbs.
 
3.  Carry whatever weapons are legal in your area AND which you have some level of training or familiarity with.
 
If you don't know how to use a weapon you'll just hurt yourself with it.  If you're uncomfortable with it then you'll be worse off then if you didn't have it.  You need to know the basics of how to attack and defend with the weapon you carry.  Experience is really the best teacher you can have for combat armed or unarmed.  If you haven't had a violent upbringing then you should seek out some basic training if you're concerned for your safety.
 
I fall more into the violent upbringing category myself.  I've had a few formal martial arts classes but I mostly learned from experience.  I've been involved in may serious fights (i.e. not play-fighting or sparing) in my youth, both armed and unarmed.  I've won more than I've lost, but I've always learned from my losses.  The two armed fights I was in involved me being attacked by a person with a knife when I was initially unarmed.  I won both without a scratch on myself and without causing any serious or lasting injury to my opponent.  I've avoided several fights through wordplay and plain intimidation as well.
 
Which bring me to my next point.  The above list is also in order of preference.  Just because you can carry a weapon doesn't mean you should ignore your situation or give no thought to unarmed combat.  Violence should be a last resort, and I'd rather not have to hurt anyone.  Of course, once someone is already tying to rob you, you've almost certainly reached that last resort.  As far as I'm concerned, once someone has initiated violence they have sacrificed their right to not have violence visited upon them.
 
Lots of people like to pretend that they're "civilized" because they've contracted out most of the necessary violence to the government so they can ignore that it takes place at all.  It still takes action to get anything done in the real world.  The pen is only mightier than the sword only in the sense that a person's words can influence others to take action, multiplying the writer's own power.  Once one person chooses violence the only choice the choice for others is to submit or respond in kind, and I'm not the kind of person who submits to others.

 

[WobblyGoblin]

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Under any and all circumstances where the intent is a robbery, brandishing a weapon escalates the situation to a much higher level, not to mention, giving the would-be robber another incentive of what to steal.  Take the hypothetical situation of a small group or even a lone robber asking for a wallet, if the "victim" is armed and pulls a weapon, this may either deter the attacker(s), or it could escalate the situation where the attacker(s) brandish another weapon and harm/kill the victim because they were threatened.  Even if the attack is deterred and the robber runs away (assuming the "victim" doesn't feel inclined to shoot the attacker in the back), the would-be robber, if armed, would now be quite upset and may be inclined to retaliate and get more than just the wallet, now they also have a new weapon to look forward to.

A landlord in my past, a kind old guy living on his own in a somewhat rural home outside of a village, walked in on two guys trying to steal from his house. They stabbed him to death.
 
For some people the thought of being recognised/identified is more than enough to escalate the situation. If they're in my house I've no reason to believe they're going to be kind people so I'll not miss them if they're no longer around.
 
The guys were caught and are now in prison. It didn't bring back my landlord.