Hotrodding the X-Fi: A Layman's Guide (No 56k)
Apr 12, 2007 at 5:54 AM Post #362 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by M3NTAL /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I am having an impossible time finding a site that I can just click and purchase a cap this evening instead of having to fax/e-mail/call.


You can get ELNA Silmics at Digikey. They are twice the size of the corresponding Blackgates, so they must be damn good!

Edit: Okay, not quite twice as big, but 1.5X as big. splaz sent me some and I'm putting them into my amp.
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 11:42 AM Post #363 of 2,194
Maybe a bit of a dumb question but before I do something stupid.. Shorting the 22uF caps is done by just making connections between the two pins of each of the 4 caps?
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 12:35 PM Post #364 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by phalanger /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Maybe a bit of a dumb question but before I do something stupid.. Shorting the 22uF caps is done by just making connections between the two pins of each of the 4 caps?


yeah, shorting them is the same as removing the capacitors and putting a wire across where the capacitors used to be. Except it's not necessary to remove the capacitors.
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 12:41 PM Post #365 of 2,194
Ok thanks.
One more question (hope its not getting annoying yet..)

I'm about to take a ride to the store that has blackgates, but it seems they have the nonpolar high end series only upto 470uF at 16v. Now I know that this should work just fine, but I plan to use the card with a 595 and (for now) without a dedicated amp. And since you mentioned earlier that higher capacity will give the output more drive, would I maybe be better off with a 2200uF regular blackgate instead of a 470uF one from the nonpolar series?
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 1:19 PM Post #366 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by phalanger /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Ok thanks.
One more question (hope its not getting annoying yet..)

I'm about to take a ride to the store that has blackgates, but it seems they have the nonpolar high end series only upto 470uF at 16v. Now I know that this should work just fine, but I plan to use the card with a 595 and (for now) without a dedicated amp. And since you mentioned earlier that higher capacity will give the output more drive, would I maybe be better off with a 2200uF regular blackgate instead of a 470uF one from the nonpolar series?



nonpolar =)
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 2:06 PM Post #367 of 2,194
BlackGate1000Nx.jpg

Well it turns out the voltage is just a maximum.. so I got a Blackgate non-polar 1000uf 25v cap (Nx series). According to the ppl at the hifi store these put the regular series to shame. Granted, theyre more than 3x as expensive too. I paid 12.80 euro or so versus 4 euro for the regular one.

Another benefit of these is that they are smaller then the regular series. I forgot to put a reference item in the picture but its maybe 3cm tall and 1.5cm wide, pretty modest.

Another final question: are capacitors like these sensitive to mechanical shock? (ie when it falls on the ground can they get internal damage, or am I worrying over nothing? (yes it fell on a floor - I didnt do it!)
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 2:11 PM Post #368 of 2,194
They should be fine after 1000 hours of burn in. The nonpolars take especially long to burn in, which is why I opted for the polars. Also, with the same capacitance, the nonpolars are twice as big. I decided I wanted as much capacitance as I could get, so I opted for the polars. But like you mentioned, many people who have used the nonpolars have been awed by them.
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 2:22 PM Post #370 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by BlizzofOZ /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I have an XtremeMusic board that I'm interested in hotrodding...

What online sites offer the Black Gates?

I've ordered from Digi-Key and Mouser, but I can't find them there.

Thanks!



not to be rude, but refer to the OP and/or read through the thread. It has been mentioned numerous times where you can get Blackgates
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 2:24 PM Post #371 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by BlizzofOZ /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I have an XtremeMusic board that I'm interested in hotrodding...

What online sites offer the Black Gates?

I've ordered from Digi-Key and Mouser, but I can't find them there.

Thanks!



You can use the Elna Silmic from DigiKey, instead of the Blackgates. They are probably just as good as the standard Blackgates.

Edit: soloz2 beat me to it. Yes, they are mentioned in the first post.
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 2:59 PM Post #372 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by soloz2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
not to be rude, but refer to the OP and/or read through the thread. It has been mentioned numerous times where you can get Blackgates



Not to be rude, but please re-read my question...

I'm looking for these components to be orderable online. I could be mistaken, but Part Connecxion and Percy Audio look to be a mail order.


Cotdt, could you direct me to a part number of the Elna's? I'm a newb and wouldn't want to order the wrong part. I don't see any product called Silmic.

Thanks!
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM Post #373 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by BlizzofOZ /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Not to be rude, but please re-read my question...

I'm looking for these components to be orderable online. I could be mistaken, but Part Connecxion and Percy Audio look to be a mail order.


Cotdt, could you direct me to a part number of the Elna's? I'm a newb and wouldn't want to order the wrong part. I don't see any product called Silmic.

Thanks!



Digikey Part Number 604-1059-ND
 
Apr 12, 2007 at 3:15 PM Post #375 of 2,194
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Originally Posted by BlizzofOZ /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thanks very much for taking the time to look it up for me!
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No problem. Everyone needs to hear this mod in its full glory, including you.
 

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