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Dec 16, 2010 at 2:18 PM Post #33 of 147
Yes this is a pure silver cable. Please read the first post.

 
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SR71B  Plug with  64 inches  please.
Another question, Will you make a  IEM Cable with pure sliver Only.?
Coz the copper wire has too much bass with my Jh16 pro.



 
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Dec 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM Post #34 of 147

 
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Yes this is a pure silver cable. Please read the first post.

 
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SR71B  Plug with  64 inches  please.
Another question, Will you make a  IEM Cable with pure sliver Only.?
Coz the copper wire has too much bass with my Jh16 pro.


 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 
 
Dec 20, 2010 at 9:46 AM Post #36 of 147

Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .
The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 



 
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Dec 20, 2010 at 11:52 AM Post #37 of 147
I have tried making my own DIY cables with silver for positive and spc for ground.  It doesn't sound as good compared to the one with silver for both positive and ground, although it's cheaper.
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Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .
The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 


 



 
Dec 21, 2010 at 7:45 AM Post #38 of 147
Possible use for TF10's?
 
Dec 21, 2010 at 6:33 PM Post #39 of 147
With the design of any cable there are always compromises. We built this cable in both UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper vs UP-OCC silver ground and could not hear a difference. Thus we went with the design that would provide more strength in an abusive environment. All cable geometries are different and sound different. And thus your experience with your DIY cable can not be generalized for all conditions.  and     ouihdbcouhabsdcoashbdciuashbdcauisbhdc
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I have tried making my own DIY cables with silver for positive and spc for ground.  It doesn't sound as good compared to the one with silver for both positive and ground, although it's cheaper.
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Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .
The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 


 


 



 
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Dec 21, 2010 at 8:02 PM Post #41 of 147
I don't understand how it doesn't have any changes in the sound though.  If it doesn't matter, why don't you use spc for both positive and ground?  The design of a cable is important of course, but the ground wire is still matter.
 
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With the design of any cable there are always compromises. We built this cable in both UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper vs UP-OCC silver ground and could not hear a difference. Thus we went with the design that would provide more strength in an abusive environment. All cable geometries are different and sound different. And thus your experience with your DIY cable can not be generalized for all conditions.  and     ouihdbcouhabsdcoashbdciuashbdcauisbhdc
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I have tried making my own DIY cables with silver for positive and spc for ground.  It doesn't sound as good compared to the one with silver for both positive and ground, although it's cheaper.
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Yes it is UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper ground. The positive conductor is UP-OCC silver .
The copper was used on the ground for added strength and durability to protect from flex failure.
 

Isn't it a stranded 26AWG silver plated copper for ground?
 


 


 


 



 
Dec 21, 2010 at 10:33 PM Post #42 of 147


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I don't understand how it doesn't have any changes in the sound though.  If it doesn't matter, why don't you use spc for both positive and ground?  The design of a cable is important of course, but the ground wire is still matter.
 
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With the design of any cable there are always compromises. We built this cable in both UP-OCC silver over UP-OCC copper vs UP-OCC silver ground and could not hear a difference. Thus we went with the design that would provide more strength in an abusive environment. All cable geometries are different and sound different. And thus your experience with your DIY cable can not be generalized for all conditions.


 



He already said they used copper to make it more durable - where did you see that it "doesn't matter"? Since IEM cables will more often be used on the road I think they made the right choice making it durable. They mentioned very clearly it is the baby brother to the headphone Silver Dragons and built it with focus on flexibility and weight.  
 
Also, could you share your cable geometry and silver purity? The solder used and method used for construction? I think all those matter too. 
 
Dec 21, 2010 at 11:31 PM Post #43 of 147
Drew said that he cannot find a difference in terms of 'sound quality', which is what I mean 'it doesn't matter'.  All I am trying to say is that the ground wire also affects the sound quality. 
 
Anyway, IEM cable like TWag OM doesn't have any issues on durability, so I don't think that's the main reason of using SPC for ground.  
 
The solder that I used for my cable is Mundorf supreme silver/gold, and the wires are Neotech UPOCC Silver 7N.  The cable geometry is similar to the Neotech NEI-1001.  It sounds very close to NEI-1001 and cost a lot cheaper.  Of course, it doesn't look as good.  
 
That is just my experience.  If anyone of you think that using silver plated copper for ground doesn't have any difference in terms of sound quality, then go for it!
 
Dec 22, 2010 at 12:37 AM Post #45 of 147
@CandyL - thanks for your thoughts and observations. I've got cables coming from Whiplash, ALO & Moon w different compositions. Will update on my observations. They might end up being the same as yours. :)

@debitsohn - have you heard the differences personally? I'm just curious since you seem to have adequate gear to warrant hearing differences in e cable. :)
 

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