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Originally Posted by volcomjerk
First off let me say that my wallet has never been happier and my ears are twice as happy.
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First things first. I'm glad you are happy. The PINT is a nice amp, and if anyone could execute it properly, it would be Marshall. I would think it possible to express your favor for this amp without declaring that another amp is a 'rip-off'. Sure, it's your opinion, and you may share it if you like, but it casts you in a bad light. Being able to state your preferences and opinion without crapping on someone else takes a little more effort, I guess. Your opinions would bear more value to the membership if they were formulated in a more constructive manner.
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Originally Posted by kdaq
Volcomjerk, when you say the Hornet is a rip off, we know that you are simply stating your opinion. That's well and good. There are, however, more respectful ways to go about doing it.
"Rip off" has an air of anger, and accusation to it. As to say, that Ray has done wrong to you.Just my $0.02.
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Indeed. It is entirely possible that one might enjoy the propeties of the headphone jack on their iPod more than any given amp, in their rig, via their ears. Superb, if that is the case. However, it only illustrates your preference. Objectivity goes a long way towards a thoughtful exchange of information.
As for this static about 'moderator protection' and the like, it's insulting. I do not even own any of Ray's products, although I have auditioned many of them. They are nice, but do not suit my taste. That is enough for me- I can buy them, own them, sell them, love them, or hate them. But I would not call them a rip-off, even at twice the price. If someone enjoys the product, then it is a success. And many folks do. For those who do not, there are many other choices, including the PINT. Which is not without it's own issues, as we all know. Does the fact that there were stability issues with this amp make it a rip-off? No, but it makes it difficult to support. I applaud Tangent for taking the high road and pulling the plug on the PINT. It must have been difficult, but I support his decision.
Anyone who thinks that the moderating staff here is heavy-handed likely feels that way because we try to keep this place reasonably constructive and enjoyable;short-sighted slams and other disparaging comments are discouraged. This is known up front, and if you don't like it, then leave. It's a big internet, there is room for everyone somewhere.
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Originally Posted by MASantos
But "better" for you, is not necessarily "better" for me or anyone else. That is the problem.
ps: Guys, this thread was created to speak about the PINT and it's qualities, characteristics, and so on. Not about the hornet. May I humbly ask that we go back to the original topic?
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Right. It would be sufficient to state that you owned the Hornet, and now have the PINT, and feel that the PINT does the job better. Much better, if you like. You could say that you think that the PINT represents a greater value. It illustrates the same point, yet without painting the opposing party as being a scam artist. This is a democracy, and people may charge whatever they wish. If Marshall sold the PINT for more, would it cease to be a good amp? If Ray sold the Hornet for less, would it be a better amp? No, but the perceived value may shift with the price. The sonic qualities of the amp remain the same for each, regardless of price charged. So the discussion then becomes about business practice, rather than amplifier capabilities. Price is a consideration, but it ought to be expresses as a relative consideration.
We ought to be reviewing/remarking on any given amp based on it's own properties, and stating preferences relative to competing products. Otherwise, this forum would be a long list of "this amp sucks", this amps is crappy, but better than that amp', or 'this amp is pretty good, but it's still crappy, less crappy than another amp'... and people would be trying to figure out which amp was 'the least crappy'. That would really be nice, wouldn't it?