Holo Audio Red Streamer

May 7, 2025 at 5:15 AM Post #2,583 of 2,596
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May 12, 2025 at 3:34 AM Post #2,586 of 2,596
Boo!! I hope they will support it soon. That said I like the USB Audio Pro app - simple and fast.

I got a monoprice hdmi 2.1 cable to try i2s between the red and Pontus 15th. I went from USB. I hear a bit more details and air. A bit more to tapping. It's noticable. But not a huge change. But a lot more bass - I needed to turn down the sub.

I'm still using NOS and qobuz.
 
May 12, 2025 at 4:50 AM Post #2,588 of 2,596
Try changing the OS. I use MoOde on my Red and I will never go back to RedOS. The latest kernel on MoOde improved sound quality further. I use JPlay as it sounds better than MConnect wit Qobuz.
I dont know Moode but going to Gentooplayer made a SQ improvement so yes software matters.
This ofcourse with compatibel settings which in my case are minimal so every gadget or extra functionality OFF, leaning to bit perfect as much as possible.
 
May 12, 2025 at 1:24 PM Post #2,589 of 2,596
can you still used Red with HQPlayer if changing OS to Moode or Gento?
 
May 12, 2025 at 8:32 PM Post #2,590 of 2,596
I can't speak for Moode but Gentoo player supports NAA/NAD for HQPlayer
 
May 12, 2025 at 11:13 PM Post #2,591 of 2,596
I can't speak for Moode but Gentoo player supports NAA/NAD for HQPlayer
now I just need to learn how to install =)
 
May 13, 2025 at 12:33 AM Post #2,592 of 2,596
I can't speak for Moode but Gentoo player supports NAA/NAD for HQPlayer
I just looked at my Gentooplayer menu and in the Enable/Disable Software section it said "HQPlayer Embedded: NOT INSTALLED"

Now I'm not a HQP user anymore but I wanted to check.

So I guess Embedded is possible but not from the start? An option?

So I guess I would need to run the HQPlayer OS on my desktop or laptop where I make all the upsampling calculations and then find my HoloRed as a Network Audio Adapter (NAA) then to DAC.

If I could ENABLE HQPlayer Embedded in Gentooplayer then both those actions would be done in the HoloRed, both upsampling calculations AND HoloRed acting as NAA.

Is that all correct?

Remark: is Raspberry Pi4 a good enough computer to make the upsampling calculations? I found an article saying YES.
https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...on-a-pi4-invigorate-your-digital-audio.11231/

But...
Is it not mandatory to alleviate as much as possible computer tasks in the Raspberry computer for sound quality?
So its not just a question if it can, but what are the trade offs if you do?

I had the impression Gentooplayer was great because of the minimal computer load, correct me if wrong please.

If so.. it would be advised to make all the upscaling calculations in a destop or laptop computer running HQPlayer OS there, so not using HQPlayer embedded in Holored.
Only to use the HoloRed as an NAA for HQplayer then to DAC.

This is what I think but please chime in if I have it wrong somehow or needs additional thoughts, thanks 🙏🏼
 
May 14, 2025 at 3:54 AM Post #2,593 of 2,596
I just looked at my Gentooplayer menu and in the Enable/Disable Software section it said "HQPlayer Embedded: NOT INSTALLED"

Now I'm not a HQP user anymore but I wanted to check.

So I guess Embedded is possible but not from the start? An option?

So I guess I would need to run the HQPlayer OS on my desktop or laptop where I make all the upsampling calculations and then find my HoloRed as a Network Audio Adapter (NAA) then to DAC.

If I could ENABLE HQPlayer Embedded in Gentooplayer then both those actions would be done in the HoloRed, both upsampling calculations AND HoloRed acting as NAA.

Is that all correct?

Remark: is Raspberry Pi4 a good enough computer to make the upsampling calculations? I found an article saying YES.
https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...on-a-pi4-invigorate-your-digital-audio.11231/

But...
Is it not mandatory to alleviate as much as possible computer tasks in the Raspberry computer for sound quality?
So its not just a question if it can, but what are the trade offs if you do?

I had the impression Gentooplayer was great because of the minimal computer load, correct me if wrong please.

If so.. it would be advised to make all the upscaling calculations in a destop or laptop computer running HQPlayer OS there, so not using HQPlayer embedded in Holored.
Only to use the HoloRed as an NAA for HQplayer then to DAC.

This is what I think but please chime in if I have it wrong somehow or needs additional thoughts, thanks 🙏🏼
Yes, HQP embedded is only to do the upsampling on the red itself. I haven't tried it but I imagine you can't do too much with the limited processing power. I would absolutely do it externally unless I was forced to otherwise.
 
May 18, 2025 at 4:36 PM Post #2,594 of 2,596
Does anyone know if Holo Red has the ability to add a delay when switching sample rates? I've been searching and can't find any info. On my wiim it's called "Sample Rate Switch Latency" and I have it set to 250 ms.
Just got a yggdrasil and it needs this extra bit of time for the relays to switch over or I loose the first bit of songs in playlists with different sample frequencies. I have a bluesound and this option doesn't exist so had to switch back to the wiim but its definitely a step back in sound quality.
 
May 19, 2025 at 8:20 AM Post #2,595 of 2,596
Does anyone know if Holo Red has the ability to add a delay when switching sample rates? I've been searching and can't find any info. On my wiim it's called "Sample Rate Switch Latency" and I have it set to 250 ms.
Just got a yggdrasil and it needs this extra bit of time for the relays to switch over or I loose the first bit of songs in playlists with different sample frequencies. I have a bluesound and this option doesn't exist so had to switch back to the wiim but its definitely a step back in sound quality.
I assume you're using RedOS and connecting to your DAC via USB. Short answer: No, there is no sample rate delay setting in RedOS. What endpoint/player software are you using?
 

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