boooyy you gonna give that guy a heartattackis it just me or is that wildism sticker not on straight?
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Yes, this one: https://shunyata.com/products/audio-cables/venom-series-audio-cables/venom-xlr/ . Bought it second hand, so it was less.Are you talking about the ones that are $650 each?
However, I think that the result may be mostly due to Mogami 2549 being so bad compared to any proper XLR cable. I can't say how much better Venom is compared to other "proper" XLR cables (should be able to do some A/B to comment on that), but at least it made me watch Mogami like trash that one should never plug into a high-end system (and Mogami is highly regarded at least in professional circles). This was easily the biggest upgrade I've ever heard from cables and it was also a massive absolute upgrade for my system. Mogami was very obviously a bottleneck and I would compare this to upgrading a dac or switching from Windows compressed sound to bit perfect lossless.
But a comment on why I went Venom particularly: I knew myself and wanted to save some bucks and jump directly to Shunyata instead of cable hopping my way there. I've heard about Shunyata so many times that I wanted to try it (especially after another head-fier recommended it again). Now I absolutely love the way the setup sounds and I can also sleep my nights well knowing that I should be quite safely in the realm of diminishing returns. Venom was a "set it and and forget it" -solution for me, but I also wanted to verify my findings against Mogami as I never want to pay only for the looks or name. I would had sold Venom if the two would had sounded the same (and I wished that this would had been the outcome). However Venom crushed Mogami arrogantly and ostentatiously. It wasn't even a competition.
You can turn the sticker upside down, won’t affect sound quality.boooyy you gonna give that guy a heartattack
jonathan c
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It’s straight; the setup is crookedis it just me or is that wildism sticker not on straight?
Haven't had time to open mine yet, fingers crossed lolis it just me or is that wildism sticker not on straight?
jlbrach
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tilted to the left at least in the pictureis it just me or is that wildism sticker not on straight?
tesox
Head-Fier
The first thing I would do is peeling of those stickers. They don't even look good itself with that oldschool shape/style. I'm absolutely no fan of any
stickers or whatever on my gear. I was thinking about removing the Kitsune fox of my incoming unit, but fortunately it machtes in color at least
and is not placed on the front.
stickers or whatever on my gear. I was thinking about removing the Kitsune fox of my incoming unit, but fortunately it machtes in color at least
and is not placed on the front.
PcChip
100+ Head-Fier
hah, you're probably right.. sorry manboooyy you gonna give that guy a heartattack
those Wildism stickers just remind me of dealer stickers on new cars
hah, you're probably right.. sorry man
those Wildism stickers just remind me of dealer stickers on new cars
Wait, it isn't a highly polished rare metal alloy bolted on?
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FYI - It's been objectively measured to lose 20 dB in sinad once the Fox sticker is removed...The first thing I would do is peeling of those stickers. They don't even look good itself with that oldschool shape/style. I'm absolutely no fan of any
stickers or whatever on my gear. I was thinking about removing the Kitsune fox of my incoming unit, but fortunately it machtes in color at least
and is not placed on the front.
Verified! And if you turn the sticker upside down it improves SINAD even further. Not tried vertical yet.FYI - It's been objectively measured to lose 20 dB in sinad once the Fox sticker is removed...
incredulousity
Headphoneus Supremus
I await the results of multiple stickers.
801evan
Headphoneus Supremus
Yep. He's lucky as I've seen worse Holo decaling.hah, you're probably right.. sorry man
those Wildism stickers just remind me of dealer stickers on new cars
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Did he mention what's the supported impedance range btw? It would be very useful information to know.FYI, Tim (Kitsune) and Jeff (Holo) said that the Bliss does not support the LCD-R
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Yes, this one: https://shunyata.com/products/audio-cables/venom-series-audio-cables/venom-xlr/ . Bought it second hand, so it was less.
However, I think that the result may be mostly due to Mogami 2549 being so bad compared to any proper XLR cable. I can't say how much better Venom is compared to other "proper" XLR cables (should be able to do some A/B to comment on that), but at least it made me watch Mogami like trash that one should never plug into a high-end system (and Mogami is highly regarded at least in professional circles). This was easily the biggest upgrade I've ever heard from cables and it was also a massive absolute upgrade for my system. Mogami was very obviously a bottleneck and I would compare this to upgrading a dac or switching from Windows compressed sound to bit perfect lossless.
But a comment on why I went Venom particularly: I knew myself and wanted to save some bucks and jump directly to Shunyata instead of cable hopping my way there. I've heard about Shunyata so many times that I wanted to try it (especially after another head-fier recommended it again). Now I absolutely love the way the setup sounds and I can also sleep my nights well knowing that I should be quite safely in the realm of diminishing returns. Venom was a "set it and and forget it" -solution for me, but I also wanted to verify my findings against Mogami as I never want to pay only for the looks or name. I would had sold Venom if the two would had sounded the same (and I wished that this would had been the outcome). However Venom crushed Mogami arrogantly and ostentatiously. It wasn't even a competition.
Now you've got me interested. I'm using the Mogamis as interconnects: May L2 > XLR Mogami + Neutrik > Bliss KTE > Susvara (stock cable). I'm having a hard time getting over my prejudice that it's snake oil though -- after all, pretty much all these recordings I'm listening to were produced with Mogami cables, so I struggle to see how the "original sin" could be corrected in reproduction if they truly are "trash" in the first place. Everything I've seen suggests they measure perfectly well, and unlike a DAC or an AMP, I think the measurements on a cable are probably all there is to it.
I wish I could audition them and see for myself. Unfortunately $650 a pair is pretty steep for cables, and the closed listings I've seen for the venoms have pretty poor resale if it doesn't work out, while at the same time being resold infrequently enough that I might be on the hunt for months to get them fully depreciated.
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