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Hifiman HE1000-SE

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by ufospls2, Aug 10, 2018.
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  1. lunarhjs
    Hifiman is at endgame. As I spoke with Dr. Bian, he's basically out of ideas. Don't expect anything for at least the next few years regarding wired tech such as the se and the upper echelon.
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2019
  2. kid vic
    Regarding the refurbished item quip (I said it, I should back it up), there is a massive difference between reselling a warranty return or an open box/demo unit and selling headphones received for a voluntary upgrade program. A system where a manufacturer is planning to profit off of one headphone two and a half times is not at all like fixing the cracked screen on an iPhone 6s, replacing it (free or for cost of repair) and selling it at a lowered price.
    The allegation that they were selling the HEKv1&2 drivers as is in the HEKse is pretty wild as an allegation but the majority of the hifiman critiques are legitimate.
  3. Gibson59
    @kid vic you seem to really have it out for Hifiman. Do you have an axe to grind? Not that we can't discuss potential manufacturer faults in this thread if they pertain to the HEKse and may help someone make an informed buying decision, but man negative remarks are all you seem to be contributing and most of them seem to be speculation. For me this thread is meant to be mostly about impressions, questions, reviews etc about the HEKse. If you want to start a Hifiman hate thread please do it somewhere else, it's just getting kinda old to keep reading.

    Regarding the drivers... if you've ever 1) listened to HEKse and/or 2) held the HEKse in your hands and looked at the drivers you'd know in a heartbeat that they are absolutely not the same drivers as the HEKv1 or v2. Trying to spread that rumor is ridiculous. Enough dude.
  4. TeamHiFiMAN
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  5. chimney189

    EDIT: Alright, I'm okay.
    I think there has been a few questions regarding the drivers about the Arya and the HEKse. Can you give insight on the intention of the Arya? Is the driver in it supposed to mimic the sound signature of the HEKv2? If not, then what?

    Lastly, is the driver from the HEKse a newly designed driver or just a revision of the HEK driver?

    Last edited: Mar 1, 2019
  6. reklov
    @TeamHiFiMAN: how do you differentiate Arya and HEKV2? Is it the same driver?
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  7. thecrow
    I wouldn’t normally ask but...since you're here.....

    Is there any chance of a tour ir demo model of the he6se and/or the he1000se being made available to us in australia?

    From a selfiah point of view...
    I bought the hekv2 in feb and am really enjoying it. I’m seriously considering the upgrade to the hekse but I don’t want to lose what i have in case the hekv2 better suits me or at least if the $1000 is better put into something like the he6se that i have always considered but have never heard.
    The he6se may suit my system (cayin iha6) and/or preferences better. Or the hekse may go up a few levels for me - not sure

    Unfortunately, when i checked last montth yhe local distributors/store (adsicted to audio) had none available

    Just thought i’d ask
  8. TeamHiFiMAN
    The Arya, its driver shares very much with the HE1000v1, its headband and cups are the same as the Edition X v2. The cups contribute a sonic difference, not a vast change but they do alter things. The driver itself is very close to the old 1000v1 but as time and tech progress they are not as hard to make as they once were and at a significantly reduced retail price there is a slight increase in the tolerance limits, so head to head to head with an HE1000v1 its not quite exactly as good but it gets sonically close, as listeners can attest to.

    HE1000se, well the driver is not "new" as there is no driver per say. The Diaphragm is new from the v2, its thinner and its lighter by a good margin. The other key alteration is the magnets, they are similar in what they are made from as the 1000v2 but as promoted they are the same "Stealth Magnet" design as was developed for the Susvara. The se in that sense has newer tech inside it and thats why it sounds both better than the v2 and it can do it with a hugely reduced thirst for power.
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  9. TeamHiFiMAN
    Please PM me with your email address and we can discuss if it may be possible, but I can't make any promises.

    Putting the cash into the se would get you a better headphone but it would share much, same sound signature and flavour as your v2. The HE6se would get you a very different kettle of fish, different sound signature, different style, more dynamism and drama (when very well powered) so they can make very complimentary headphones to have. However if you are someone that only wants to have 1 then I would suggest take the se. It does all things well, its a very even handed performer with all genres and is very easy to make it sound great out of almost anything. The HE6se like its namesake is famed for needing oodles of power.
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  10. chimney189
    TeamHiFiMAN, does your company have any plans to spend more time on the quality of the headphone cables in the future, or maybe at least work on creating upgrade cables?
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  11. Tekunda

    This is what I have tried to convey all along:
    Electrostatic -(magnetostatic) technology is "old" technology.
    The first loudspeakers based on these priniciples were developed in Germany around 1930.
    So this technology is basically maxxed-out.

    When you look at the transducers, you will see that they only consist of a few parts. Of course you can try to coat the transducer foil with a different coating, try to get it even thinner, or in the case of magnetostats, install stronger magnets, or give the housing a different shape, but that's about it.
    Even Sennheiser's new TOTL Orpheus has not used any groundbreaking new technology.
    So indeed if nobody has a technological breakthrough at how to produce soundwaves in a new manner, don't expect earth-shattering developments in the future when it comes to headphones.
  12. thecrow
    thanks - PM sent
  13. Hifiearspeakers
    Welcome!!! Thanks for stopping by!
  14. TeamHiFiMAN
    Cables are not what we specialise in as there are specific cable companies which do that, however it would be a avenue for range expansion to work on not only the stock cables (which we do already with a focus on their sonic pairing) but to actively increase cable options for those who would like to use cables to tailor things to their tastes . I will pass onwards the expression of interest for you.
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  15. macx
    My HE1000se left side is crackling and rattling at low volumes it’s sooooo bothersome 8(

    I don’t know why it started doing this I’ve tried different source switching cables reversing headphones on head etc.... sigh
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