joseluishs
100+ Head-Fier
Same here!When i had the Arya Stealth, I found EQing for harman killed the magic in the headphones. So boring.
Same here!When i had the Arya Stealth, I found EQing for harman killed the magic in the headphones. So boring.
That's like saying you don't want X amount of salt added to a particular meal because it becomes overpowering. Everyone has a salt preference, and it may be more or less than what the chef puts in the dish.I don't get EQ...to me it ruins the fidelity of the headphone...musicality and engagement collapses.
I respectfully disagree....but you enjoy your EQ and have a nice day.That's like saying you don't want X amount of salt added to a particular meal because it becomes overpowering. Everyone has a salt preference, and it may be more or less than what the chef puts in the dish.
EQ is the same. If EQ makes the headphone sound worse, then you are using EQ the wrong way.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as a "user friendly" EQ approach; that's why Apple and other device manufactures avoid having it available in their device. For many headphone and audio enthusiast, properly implementing EQ is too difficult or confusing in technicality. Properly setting up EQ will always require a certain aptitude and understanding of software and audio science.
I agree. EQ has to do also with the user’s taste, not only to please a graph or the preferences of another person. Using EQ might be one of the most musical and healthy practices that audiophiles can do!That's like saying you don't want X amount of salt added to a particular meal because it becomes overpowering. Everyone has a salt preference, and it may be more or less than what the chef puts in the dish.
EQ is the same. If EQ makes the headphone sound worse, then you are using EQ the wrong way.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as a "user friendly" EQ approach; that's why Apple and other device manufactures avoid having it available in their device. For many headphone and audio enthusiast, properly implementing EQ is too difficult or confusing in technicality. Properly setting up EQ will always require a certain aptitude and understanding of software and audio science.
If you limit yourself to implementations that have only a few bands, or low Qs (wide instead of narrow adjustments), most EQ changes will likely seem unnatural. If you define "fidelity" as hearing the headphone as it sounds, then of course EQ will act against that. But if you define fidelity in terms of how the recording sounds, as far as I know, there are very much standards on what constitutes "neutral" speakers in a studio environment, and as such, EQing toward something close to that (which Harman and diffuse-field aim to do) is going to bring you much further toward "fidelity" than sticking with just one of the myriads of frequency response flavours offered by headphone manufacturers. A "neutral" frequency response means passing through the original recording without any boosting or reduction of frequency content. Most headphones severely colour the sound, which is by definition not "high-fidelity", but you are free to enjoy those sound signatures if you acknowledge that. Taking a look at https://www.spinorama.org/scores.html (click on the "Reviews" for frequency response measurements), you will see that the frequency response deviations in the speaker mind studio monitor world are substantially less than what we find in the headphone world, though beyond that, one has more major and inconsistent variations introduced by room acoustics, such resolved with room treatment and EQ.I don't get EQ...to me it ruins the fidelity of the headphone...musicality and engagement collapses.
Wild thought - by using EQ to your taste, you become an extension to the mastering engineers (within your own personal little world)I agree. EQ has to do also with the user’s taste, not only to please a graph or the preferences of another person. Using EQ might be one of the most musical and healthy practices that audiophiles can do!
I totally agree with you. The graph reading and EQ is hyped a lot in threads of “not so well” measured headphones. There are different EQ implementations, but they all degrade the sound. Some more, some less, there is no perfect DSP.I respectfully disagree....but you enjoy your EQ and have a nice day.
That "all" EQ degrades the sound is just your and a number of others' opinion. Now of course, there are other headphone factors independent of frequency response. Arguably, EQ can precisely make those "subtle details" easier to hear if done properly, namely to fill dips and tame peaks so that no details are masked by other frequencies.I totally agree with you. The graph reading and EQ is hyped a lot in threads of “not so well” measured headphones. There are different EQ implementations, but they all degrade the sound. Some more, some less, there is no perfect DSP.
I guess EQers just focus mostly on frequency response feeling and ignore the subtle details in sound.
I agree with you. EQ can degrade the sound quality. What about this thought: the sound was already degraded with the sub optimal frequency response of the headphone to begin with…I totally agree with you. The graph reading and EQ is hyped a lot in threads of “not so well” measured headphones. There are different EQ implementations, but they all degrade the sound. Some more, some less, there is no perfect DSP.
I guess EQers just focus mostly on frequency response feeling and ignore the subtle details in sound.
That’s true… HD800 S’ 6K peak is so easy to clean up with EQ.That "all" EQ degrades the sound is just your and a number of others' opinion. Now of course, there are other headphone factors independent of frequency response. Arguably, EQ can precisely make those "subtle details" easier to hear if done properly, namely to fill dips and tame peaks so that no details are masked by other frequencies.
Respectfully, this is not so easy. Headphones are limited sound reproducers, which are not perfect. You can make frequency response similar to reference, but frequency response is not the only property.That "all" EQ degrades the sound is just your and a number of others' opinion. Now of course, there are other headphone factors independent of frequency response. Arguably, EQ can precisely make those "subtle details" easier to hear if done properly, namely to fill dips and tame peaks so that no details are masked by other frequencies.
I agree. EQ has to do also with the user’s taste, not only to please a graph or the preferences of another person. Using EQ might be one of the most musical and healthy practices that audiophiles can d
And the musicality and engagement collapses.That’s true… HD800 S’ 6K peak is so easy to clean up with EQ.
Not for me thankfully it enhances its musicality (for me)And the musicality and engagement collapses.