Help with equalization

[Draaftlore]

I bought a set of iSine10 from audeze and I intend to use the personalized audio setting on my Samsung Galaxy s7 to equalize the sound signature more to my hearing. It plays a beep tone at different sound levels and asks if you can hear it and adjusts the EQ to match. Is there something online that acts in a similar manner for PC, because I really liked the sound quality that spotify and my own personal .m4a tracks sounded with it optimized like that.

 

[buke9]

Not to big on EQ myself . Most people use eq to get a headphone closer to neutral or in a lot of cases bass boost. I did not find a freq graph for the isine10 but innerfidelity had one for the 20’s so a place you could start. They are different but not by a huge margin. Where ever the graph goes down you boost that frequency and vice versa. I do have a eq curve on my QP1R set just for the Meze 99 Classics and they are totally different headphones which to me is good and bad in some ways. I’m a bit different as I have 15 or so headphones from low-fi to summit-fi and change them out rather than eq but eq probably would have made my wife happier; )

 

[ProtegeManiac]

I bought a set of iSine10 from audeze and I intend to use the personalized audio setting on my Samsung Galaxy s7 to equalize the sound signature more to my hearing. It plays a beep tone at different sound levels and asks if you can hear it and adjusts the EQ to match. Is there something online that acts in a similar manner for PC, because I really liked the sound quality that spotify and my own personal .m4a tracks sounded with it optimized like that.

I don't know of any guided EQ app that integrates those but you can download a sinewave generator and run Equalizer APO. Set the latter to instantly apply any changes, then manually run sinewaves in the same freqs as the default bands, go back between the sinewave and EQ until you hear them all mostly even.

The advantage here is that unlike Samsung's AdaptSound you can apply cuts instead of just boosts. Do it the other way around and trim the loudest frequencies first, then boost whatever frequencies you can barely hear.

 

[Draaftlore]

I don't know of any guided EQ app that integrates those but you can download a sinewave generator and run Equalizer APO. Set the latter to instantly apply any changes, then manually run sinewaves in the same freqs as the default bands, go back between the sinewave and EQ until you hear them all mostly even.

The advantage here is that unlike Samsung's AdaptSound you can apply cuts instead of just boosts. Do it the other way around and trim the loudest frequencies first, then boost whatever frequencies you can barely hear.

Any video tutorials that explain every little detail step by step? I do no understand how to use a sound equalizer. Which is why i perfer adaptsound.

 

[ProtegeManiac]

Any video tutorials that explain every little detail step by step? I do no understand how to use a sound equalizer. Which is why i perfer adaptsound.

Not that I know of that uses exactly the method I described. Why don't you just download the programs anyway? Grope around the interface and you'll get it. That's already the simplified version, which is why I didn't lay out specific frequencies, since when you install Equalizer APO you just bring up the regular graphic EQ and there you go with the bands already filled in for specific center freqs.

Then download a sine wave generator and have it play or create files based on the center frequencies you see on the graphic EQ bands.

Listen to 1000hz, then one frequency down. Is the frequency down louder? Apply a cut. Move on to the next freq down and listen to it back to back vs 1000hz. Is it louder? Cut it again, 1dB steps, until you get to a point where it's about even with 1000hz. Work your way down. After go back to 1000hz and work your way up.

Chances are it might be weaker for some freqs - usually 60hz and lower, and those above 1000hz until around 5000hz or so. Don't boost those yet. Work on the louder ones and trim them. Listen. If that's good enough then don't even bother with boosting. Otherwise try a little boost until they're almost even. Be wary of doing that for the freqs between 1000hz and 4000hz since any driver distortion or excess boost there will be too obvious, as well as for freq below 60hz since those have a higher tendency for causing driver distortion if not hitting X-Max..

 

[Draaftlore]

Not that I know of that uses exactly the method I described. Why don't you just download the programs anyway? Grope around the interface and you'll get it. That's already the simplified version, which is why I didn't lay out specific frequencies, since when you install Equalizer APO you just bring up the regular graphic EQ and there you go with the bands already filled in for specific center freqs.

Then download a sine wave generator and have it play or create files based on the center frequencies you see on the graphic EQ bands.

Listen to 1000hz, then one frequency down. Is the frequency down louder? Apply a cut. Move on to the next freq down and listen to it back to back vs 1000hz. Is it louder? Cut it again, 1dB steps, until you get to a point where it's about even with 1000hz. Work your way down. After go back to 1000hz and work your way up.

Chances are it might be weaker for some freqs - usually 60hz and lower, and those above 1000hz until around 5000hz or so. Don't boost those yet. Work on the louder ones and trim them. Listen. If that's good enough then don't even bother with boosting. Otherwise try a little boost until they're almost even. Be wary of doing that for the freqs between 1000hz and 4000hz since any driver distortion or excess boost there will be too obvious, as well as for freq below 60hz since those have a higher tendency for causing driver distortion if not hitting X-Max..

sorry for the late reply I spent the weekend attempting the EQ proccess on my PC with my razer headset. again I do not understand anything and ended up just making the sound worse. I am not a sound engineer or a super high end audiophile. I am what some would say a normal person who has no idea what they are supposed to do and thus why the prefer AdaptSound. Heck if a company were to offer this as a service I would pay for the software

 

[Prosny]

Hi,
I understand I only have one post on this forum and my advice is not as authoritary as someone’s with thousands of posts, but from my last experience with a parametric equalizer (like equalizer APO) I’ve noticed that equalizing “by ear” trying to even the frequency response is the best way to get a dull sound that doesn’t resemble they way we listen to things at all. By understanding that everyone’s hearing is different, you also understand that we not only hear headphones differently, but we also hear reality differently. Therefore, a “flat” frequency response perceived by ear on a sine wave, is not flat by any means, since it’s totally different from how we hear non amplified sounds everyday. I would only recommend this approach for those, like me, who suffer from some forms of hypersensitivity to certain frequencies (for example I have to tame a very narrow band of frequencies around 2800hz because, otherwise, it hurts like hell everytime that frequency is slighly emphasised in a song). I know it’s kinda hard to understand my point of view, but I hope I’ve made my point in a clear enough way.

The only scientific way that I’m aware of to apply a decent EQ, is by basing it on a frequency response measurement of your headphones. By doing so, I’ve corrected my HD600’s tendency to hide details under an emphasised mid-bass and I’ve strengthened its bass response (I’ve been through a lot more since I’m a maniac, changing things here and there and changing my mind the day after, but there’s no need for you to torture yourself like I did).

However, if you already like what you’re listening to, there’s no need for a pointless EQ just for the sake of it. Just enjoy your music with the nice little jewel you’ve got there.

 

[ProtegeManiac]

sorry for the late reply I spent the weekend attempting the EQ proccess on my PC with my razer headset. again I do not understand anything and ended up just making the sound worse. I am not a sound engineer or a super high end audiophile. I am what some would say a normal person who has no idea what they are supposed to do and thus why the prefer AdaptSound. Heck if a company were to offer this as a service I would pay for the software

You don't need advanced understanding of it, I just laid out the instructions. Here they are in a line by line format if reading it off a paragraph looks confusing.

1. Download Equalizer APO.

2. Install Equalizer APO.

3. Equalizer APO.

4. Click the + and hit "Graphic EQ" and look in the menu options and make sure it's on Instant Mode so it applies the correction EQ when you save it.

5. Look at the frequencies in the graphic EQ's bands.

6. Google "free sinewave tone generator." This creates a constant sound similar to what you will find on Adapt Sound, but more like what's on Neutralizer for Android.

7. Install the tone generator.

8. Run tone generator. Look at Equalizer APO interface. Have both windows open side by side. If you have dual monitors you can put them in one each.

9. Depending on the tone generator it might create MP3 sinewaves (a) or just generates the tone straight out of the app (b), so adjust accordingly.

10a. Create sinewave MP3 files and input the same frequencies you see on the Equalizer APO graphic EQ.
10b. Run sinewave generator for each frequency on the EQ APO graphic EQ.

11. Run 1000hz sinewave. Then run a sinewave for the lowest frequency on EQ APO. Move the slider up for +xdB if the first frequency is softer than 1000hz, down for -xdB if it's louder than 1000hz. Then save the profile.

12. Repeat 1000hz, then return to the first frequency. Are they roughly equal? If not, move the slider again. If yes, move on to the next frequency.

13. repeat steps 11 to 13 for all the other frequencies on the Equalizer APO graphic EQ.

14. Listen to actual music. Is it how you like it? If yes, then you're done. If not, repeat steps 11 to 14 and recheck your work.