[cuba0555]

Amazon.com now has them for 259.99$ (280$ shipped)
They look tempting. I wonder how they compare to the Senn's HD650?

 

[Acix]

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Originally Posted by cuba0555 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Amazon.com now has them for 259.99$ (280$ shipped) They look tempting. I wonder how they compare to the Senn's HD650?

The K-702 are better in any regard, you'll need some amp, or sound card and not necessary tube amp. The K-702 sounds better with SS amp.

If your music collection it's base on 128k mp3, or so. Maybe better to go with some veiled and dull hps like HD-650.

 

[Uncle Erik]

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Originally Posted by cuba0555 /img/forum/go_quote.gif They look tempting. I wonder how they compare to the Senn's HD650?

That's been discussed quite a bit here - you should find plenty of comparisons in the Headphones Forum.

Personally, I found the HD-650 much superior to the K-701/2. The HD-650 has a much more natural, balanced sound. For me, the vocals on the K-701/2 are off and don't sound natural. My K-701 spent a lot of time in its box until I got around to selling it. I'm hoping the rumored new AKG flagship follows in the steps of the wonderful K-501 and K-1000.

 

[Acix]

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif The HD-650 has a much more natural, balanced sound. For me, the vocals on the K-701/2 are off and don't sound natural.

LOL, HD-650 natural and balanced.

 

[leftear]

Last week i tried them, and they are fantastic!
they offer a super comfy, over-the-ear design, great sound at home and with iPods, and come with a detachable headphone cable.

 

[cuba0555]

Just to be clear SS amp means (solid state). Right?

 

[TheMarchingMule]

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Originally Posted by cuba0555 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Just to be clear SS amp means (solid state). Right?

Yup.

 

[Maxvla]

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Originally Posted by Acix /img/forum/go_quote.gif LOL, HD-650 natural and balanced.

I'm listening to the Emerson Quartet at the moment. All 4 instruments sound identical to the instruments I play and work on (violin luthier) every single day.

I'm wearing HD600. I've tried the K701 but found them quite thin, though very detailed. Interesting cans, but not ideal.

 

[MrGreen]

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif That's been discussed quite a bit here - you should find plenty of comparisons in the Headphones Forum. Personally, I found the HD-650 much superior to the K-701/2. The HD-650 has a much more natural, balanced sound. For me, the vocals on the K-701/2 are off and don't sound natural. My K-701 spent a lot of time in its box until I got around to selling it. I'm hoping the rumored new AKG flagship follows in the steps of the wonderful K-501 and K-1000.

whilst i agree with you RE: 701 vs 501/1000, the HD650 is not more balanced (and IMO not more natural).
The 650 is very laid back and quite muddy, and has overly romantic mids.

701 is a lot better in my opinion IF you can amp this beast


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Originally Posted by Maxvla /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm listening to the Emerson Quartet at the moment. All 4 instruments sound identical to the instruments I play and work on (violin luthier) every single day. I'm wearing HD600. I've tried the K701 but found them quite thin, though very detailed. Interesting cans, but not ideal.

The HD600 is very different from 650 and IMO much much better

 

[madelvice]

Things K70x does well IMO:
-clarity
-detail (especially in the vocals)
-speed
-tightness and accuracy of tone

Things it lacks:
-warmth
-low end bass volume. (especially with kick drums)

As to the bass issue (which is highly debated):
I find that the tone of the bass is great on K70x. It's tight and accurate. The problem is that it needs to a little louder and it's on the thin side.

I've only tried the 600s, though I hear they're similar. I found that the 600s had a bit warmer tone and musicality, but really lacked in detail, clarity, and tone. I found them a bit too mid-bassy.

Anyway, I'm a huge fan of the k70x. I'm running them through an audio-gd compass by the way.
Good luck!

 

[cuba0555]

Well if my employer has an accommodation program with Senn I can get a killer price on the HD600 and 650s. They however only have the AKG K242HD now and was holding out to see if the lineup for the holidays will broaden a bit. As they do have a program for Harman Kardon.

 

[Maxvla]

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Originally Posted by MrGreen /img/forum/go_quote.gif The HD600 is very different from 650 and IMO much much better

I've heard both on my rig extensively and the differences are very much exaggerated.

 

[Acix]

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Originally Posted by cuba0555 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well if my employer has an accommodation program with Senn I can get a killer price on the HD600 and 650s. They however only have the AKG K242HD now and was holding out to see if the lineup for the holidays will broaden a bit. As they do have a program for Harman Kardon.

I got the chance to compare the K-240MKll to the K-702 on Phonotor amp.
The MKll are great, but they are 70-80% of the K702.

If you can get the K-242HD around $100 it's a good deal. You can get the K701 used for around $200 on the FS forum. Better to go with the 702 new. They will need minimum of 150 hours burn in.

 

[cuba0555]

Let me just say the mark up on headphones are no joke!

 

[baka1969]

I'm a fan of the 701/2. I find them to be detailed and neutral. The clarity is excellent. Although the mids aren't as full as my HF-2, I find the highs more refined. Soundstage is great. Even though I wouldn't mind the bass to extend an octave or two lower, the bass quality is excellent and hardly what I'd call thin. I believe that the Senn and Grado sounds to be colored in different ways. Even if I enjoy the Grado character. The 701/2, to me, is much more neutral. IMHO of course.