[kool bubba ice]

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Originally Posted by doppeli /img/forum/go_quote.gif ok so AD900 is bound to be better for spatial rending . Moreover I dont need to buy amp-headphone . Allthough , as its an open headphone , did you go in LAN with the AD ? wich one between AD and sennheiser pc350 have the better isolation ? why Kool Bubba Ice's Base says the AD700 is better than AD900 ingame ?

Sound stage.

 

[ourfpshero]

the senn pc350 is a closed headset and isolates very well. not the greatest sound quality though. fantastic mic

 

[Oggranak]

The Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 is a fine option.

 

[yourstruly]

The only true "pro gaming" headphones I know of are the Steelseries 5HV 2 headsets. If you know anything about pro-gaming in Korea, they're the official headphones used for the MSL.

 

[catscratch]

Former pro gamer here, played Quake 3 OSP many years ago. Possibly future pro gamer if I decide to get into QuakeLive. Anyway...

Gaming headsets and 5.1 headphones are gimmicks. Your basic quality 2-channel stereo headphones will be just as good if not better for positioning. However a lot of these will a) be open and b) will require an amp. Lans tend to be noisy, and the only reason I'd go with an open headphone for pro gaming is if you're not using a voiceover program like Ventrilo to talk to teammates and you need to be able to hear them. Also, a lot of lans limit what you can bring so headphone amps may not be possible in a lan environment. If you're going to be playing only from home, though, you have a lot more choice and open headphones or hard-to-drive headphones are a possibility.

I use the DT770/80 pre-2005 version but I don't claim that this is the best gaming headphone, and of course it does need to be amped. I've been out of the $200-300 headphone scene for so long and there are lots of new models out there that I haven't heard. I also use an A900 from time to time and it works quite well too, though I prefer the DT770 in terms of positioning.

I think that a U-shaped frequency response with boosted treble and bass is much more suitable to FPS gaming than a linear or midrange-heavy response (i.e. HD595). You need to hear footsteps and armor pickups in Q3 (not sure about sounds in CS since I played it a grand total of 4 times all on lan) and a lot of that information is in high/low, whereas a lot of distracting ambient sounds (which you can turn off admittedly) are in the mids, and you don't want a very midrange-heavy presentation. So, stuff like the A900 and DT770, which does tend to boost treble and bass though not as excessively as a lot of consumer-level gear, works out really well. Ultrasones may work out pretty well actually; I hate these for music since they sound colored and artificial but for gaming they may work out really well with their good positioning and seriously boosted bass/treble. I had the Proline 2500 for a while but I never bothered to test it with gaming since I haven't touched a game in over 5 years.

Really, use your own ears. As a pro gamer you have a much, much better idea as to what you need than 99% of the people here. Audition headphones if you can and see how well they do for your needs.

 

[hardstyler]

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Originally Posted by catscratch /img/forum/go_quote.gif Former pro gamer here, played Quake 3 OSP many years ago. Possibly future pro gamer if I decide to get into QuakeLive. Anyway... Gaming headsets and 5.1 headphones are gimmicks. Your basic quality 2-channel stereo headphones will be just as good if not better for positioning. However a lot of these will a) be open and b) will require an amp. Lans tend to be noisy, and the only reason I'd go with an open headphone for pro gaming is if you're not using a voiceover program like Ventrilo to talk to teammates and you need to be able to hear them. Also, a lot of lans limit what you can bring so headphone amps may not be possible in a lan environment. If you're going to be playing only from home, though, you have a lot more choice and open headphones or hard-to-drive headphones are a possibility. I use the DT770/80 pre-2005 version but I don't claim that this is the best gaming headphone, and of course it does need to be amped. I've been out of the $200-300 headphone scene for so long and there are lots of new models out there that I haven't heard. I also use an A900 from time to time and it works quite well too, though I prefer the DT770 in terms of positioning. I think that a U-shaped frequency response with boosted treble and bass is much more suitable to FPS gaming than a linear or midrange-heavy response (i.e. HD595). You need to hear footsteps and armor pickups in Q3 (not sure about sounds in CS since I played it a grand total of 4 times all on lan) and a lot of that information is in high/low, whereas a lot of distracting ambient sounds (which you can turn off admittedly) are in the mids, and you don't want a very midrange-heavy presentation. So, stuff like the A900 and DT770, which does tend to boost treble and bass though not as excessively as a lot of consumer-level gear, works out really well. Ultrasones may work out pretty well actually; I hate these for music since they sound colored and artificial but for gaming they may work out really well with their good positioning and seriously boosted bass/treble. I had the Proline 2500 for a while but I never bothered to test it with gaming since I haven't touched a game in over 5 years. Really, use your own ears. As a pro gamer you have a much, much better idea as to what you need than 99% of the people here. Audition headphones if you can and see how well they do for your needs.

Whats your Quake 3 nick? I followed pro OSP and later VQ3 CPMA scene so I probably heard of you.

 

[Solid Snake]

The MDR-F1 are pretty damn good for competitive play.

 

[doppeli]

@yourstruly : ATH-AD700>5hv2 but it's not a "gamer" headphone, so you need mic !

@catscratch : there are a lot of noise over a LAN, you think I can play with an ATH-AD700 at LAN?

apparently the ATH-AD700 does not require headphones amp. That's why I prefer this headphone rather than the beyer. I can't take a amp headphone at LAN.

@Solid Snake : yes apparently the sony is a better headphone to play that the AD700

AD700 VS Sony MDR F1 gaming review.

but it is too open to play with it at LAN

So I think I'll take a ATH-AD700 and my sound card xfi Fatal1ty FPS. But I am very afraid that not enough isolated LAN.
I would like to test the PC350, the ATH-AD700, and the Sennheiser HD 280pro to compare.

 

[Alpha 1 Omega]

for me there is only one Psyko

 

[Townyj]

LOL!!! I laugh my ass off everytime i see them! No matter how good they could be it looks like you are wearing one of those boxing caps the special ed kids get around with.

 

[doppeli]

I prefer choose a headphone with a feedback

 

[Solid Snake]

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Originally Posted by doppeli /img/forum/go_quote.gif @yourstruly : ATH-AD700>5hv2 but it's not a "gamer" headphone, so you need mic ! @catscratch : there are a lot of noise over a LAN, you think I can play with an ATH-AD700 at LAN? apparently the ATH-AD700 does not require headphones amp. That's why I prefer this headphone rather than the beyer. I can't take a amp headphone at LAN. @Solid Snake : yes apparently the sony is a better headphone to play that the AD700 AD700 VS Sony MDR F1 gaming review. but it is too open to play with it at LAN So I think I'll take a ATH-AD700 and my sound card xfi Fatal1ty FPS. But I am very afraid that not enough isolated LAN. I would like to test the PC350, the ATH-AD700, and the Sennheiser HD 280pro to compare.

Both are very open headphones. Sound's like you need some isolation. The AD700 won't do you justice.

 

[moonboy403]

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Originally Posted by doppeli /img/forum/go_quote.gif I prefer choose a headphone with a feedback

You mean one of those skullcandy subwoofer unit?

 

[doppeli]

so the AD700 is not good for lan

I really do not know what to do, there is no better headphone than PC350 to LAN?

The best is to buy a headphone to LAN and AD700 or Sony MDR F1 to home, but I don't have enough money

 

[doppeli]

AD700 > A700 but if I take A700 to LAN, its always better than the PC350?