HD800s

[Jhwong]

There is no doubt HD800s will always be on the top of the tier list.

 

[tamleo]

Hello guys,
So today this happened when I cleaned my Hd800s pads . The tinny flaked black dots. I want to ask if anyone has seen something like that? I also worry if I inhale it and it come into my lungs lol

 

[Rob80b]

Hello guys,
So today this happened when I cleaned my Hd800s pads . The tinny flaked black dots.

Depending on ones use, plus whisker rash and body oils the pads do eventually disintegrate, went through 3 pairs of OEM before switching to sheep/lamb skin.

Probably body oils,

I also worry if I inhale it and it come into my lungs lol

Not a good idea to inhale any foreign objects but don't think the flakes are air-born.


JFYI the main HD800S thread.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sen...ns-thread-read-first-post-for-summary.795365/

 

[tamleo]

Depending on ones use, plus whisker rash and body oils the pads do eventually disintegrate, went through 3 pairs of OEM before switching to sheep/lamb skin.


Not a good idea to inhale any foreign objects but don't think the flakes are air-born.


JFYI the main HD800S thread.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sen...ns-thread-read-first-post-for-summary.795365/

Tks for your reply. Pardons my arrogance but do you mean oem as genuine Sennheiser parts?
I only use my one-year-old hd800s a few hours a week and after my grief with some big headphone brands built quality I hoped I can use the pads much longer This hobby is quite time and money consuming.
I am afraid that leather pads may change the sound quality but I will search more. Thank for your suggestion

 

[SecretAgent]

Very expensive indeed. I gave up on cars and watches because those hobbyies were too expensive for me and hifi is much better but not exactly what you would call economical or cheap

 

[Rob80b]

Tks for your reply. Pardons my arrogance but do you mean oem as genuine Sennheiser parts?

Yes, but sorry make that 2 OEM and 1 3rd party but all 3 were made from Alcantara and with my body oils they eventual break down, no problem with the pads from the HD600 series which just eventually flatten but do not deteriorate.

I am afraid that leather pads may change the sound quality but I will search more. Thank for your suggestion

There is a slight change as pads are one element on all headphones that can make the biggest difference in sound but as the HD800/S are fairly open I've experienced nothing that I find bothersome with the leather unless ones is against a slight bit of bass enforcement.

 

[tamleo]

Yes, but sorry make that 2 OEM and 1 3rd party but all 3 were made from Alcantara and with my body oils they eventual break down, no problem with the pads from the HD600 series which just eventually flatten but do not deteriorate.


There is a slight change as pads are one element on all headphones that can make the biggest difference in sound but as the HD800/S are fairly open I've experienced nothing that I find bothersome with the leather unless ones is against a slight bit of bass enforcement.

Thank you for your info.
My pads on my hd6xx are still fine too. And it is not only about the material, it is also many 3rd party pads for hd800s have flat shape (while the genuine ones are bell-shaped). Ime leather pads often have echo effects that I feel anxious to listen to. But yeah leather is quite okay material for pads except mold inducing while not in frequent use.

 

[tamleo]

Very expensive indeed. I gave up on cars and watches because those hobbyies were too expensive for me and hifi is much better but not exactly what you would call economical or cheap

omg cars and watchs My most expensive headphone is this hd800s and it is in some price basket of some apple watch versions I think. And I don’t know if the most hi-end version of aw can be used as long as my cheap hd6xx.
My lcd2 died a month ago for no reason while Audeze cable and pads have been keeping broken. And the yokes and crews easily got paint chips and rust. Now it is the driver.. so frustrating but for more than 12 years in service it is “affordable” for my happiness imo lol
Except in this case of hd800s pads I cannot think they are that bad for Sennheiser’s durability reputation.

 

[Purplemind3000]

Is HD800s still good at this time?

After many years of indecisiveness, I finally purchased the HD800S (refurb from Sennheiser ). While they aren't an all-rounder, they have opened up musical avenues that weren't accessible to me before. For example, classical music, jazz, live performances, and any genre that benefits from room acoustics sound outstanding on the HD800S. Rock, POP, Punk, and closed styles (my daily bread), not so much.

Currently, I am testing the Focal Utopia headphones. While they surpass the HD800S in several aspects—such as dynamics, punch, energy, and possibly even resolution—they fall short in providing a new listening dimension. They are like an improved version of a good headphone, such as the HD600, and they are indeed amazing but are also conventional in their sound.

In contrast, the HD800S offers something unique that I haven't found in any other headphones I've tried, except perhaps the IE900. For that reason alone, they are worth it. Not to mention, the sound is exceptional—delicate, textured, open, smooth, and deep—as long as the music played requires a sense of room acoustics. Overall, they are totally worth it and truly a reference and classic in their own right.

 

[Rodat]

After many years of indecisiveness, I finally purchased the HD800S (refurb from Sennheiser ). While they aren't an all-rounder, they have opened up musical avenues that weren't accessible to me before. For example, classical music, jazz, live performances, and any genre that benefits from room acoustics sound outstanding on the HD800S. Rock, POP, Punk, and closed styles (my daily bread), not so much.

Currently, I am testing the Focal Utopia headphones. While they surpass the HD800S in several aspects—such as dynamics, punch, energy, and possibly even resolution—they fall short in providing a new listening dimension. They are like an improved version of a good headphone, such as the HD600, and they are indeed amazing but are also conventional in their sound.

In contrast, the HD800S offers something unique that I haven't found in any other headphones I've tried, except perhaps the IE900. For that reason alone, they are worth it. Not to mention, the sound is exceptional—delicate, textured, open, smooth, and deep—as long as the music played requires a sense of room acoustics. Overall, they are totally worth it and truly a reference and classic in their own right.

I am happy for you that you found a headphone that really satisfies you, this is really hard. I am far from the most hard core members and only own the Sennheiser HD800S, a Grado GS1000e and another Grado 325i (branded like a BMW engine The Grados offer more clarity because trebles are typically emphasized, not very comfortable to wear I must say. The Sennheiser on the contrary is very comfortable, the treble is more subdued but the overall sound stage is excellent and the bass better than Grado's, although they are in the same price range, I suspect the best one is the Sennheiser although I really want to like the Grados with their retro look and wooden cups that feel like a musical instrument. I use my headphones with a Schiit amp Mjolnir2 and dedicated unique DAC (ladder transistor) Gungir (both models are no longer being made)
Ironically, I am also happy to hear someone comment on what is by now an old model as this shows that I did not make a wrong choice, you often end up doubting yourself in the end. I am not even sure what is on their catalog right now, I will take a look Ultimately, the hardest to find is still a good quality recording and good music, like in all fields, quality is rare in art and craftmanship. Enjoy

 

[Purplemind3000]

I am happy for you that you found a headphone that really satisfies you, this is really hard. I am far from the most hard core members and only own the Sennheiser HD800S, a Grado GS1000e and another Grado 325i (branded like a BMW engine The Grados offer more clarity because trebles are typically emphasized, not very comfortable to wear I must say. The Sennheiser on the contrary is very comfortable, the treble is more subdued but the overall sound stage is excellent and the bass better than Grado's, although they are in the same price range, I suspect the best one is the Sennheiser although I really want to like the Grados with their retro look and wooden cups that feel like a musical instrument. I use my headphones with a Schiit amp Mjolnir2 and dedicated unique DAC (ladder transistor) Gungir (both models are no longer being made)
Ironically, I am also happy to hear someone comment on what is by now an old model as this shows that I did not make a wrong choice, you often end up doubting yourself in the end. I am not even sure what is on their catalog right now, I will take a look Ultimately, the hardest to find is still a good quality recording and good music, like in all fields, quality is rare in art and craftmanship. Enjoy

Some people can have a few too many headphones, lol. I'm not quite there, but I've had a few over the years. 325i straight six! Those were the BMW days!

The Grado SR80e were my first "real" headphones, and I was using them out and about before everyone switched to Bluetooth cans. However, I always found Grados' ergonomics lacking, and they can be painful to wear.

It's interesting how some headphones just click for you while others don't, and it's not necessarily about the price. For instance, the HD600 is so addictive and relatively affordable! It just makes me want to listen to more music, it's wonderful. Unfortunately, I was swayed by advertisements and purchased the HD660S2 first, expecting it to be a better version of the HD600, but it wasn't. It's more expensive and doesn't sound as good. I also tried the HD820, but they didn't work for me at all, even though they cost a fortune. The HD800S, however, works great for me. I listen to all kinds of live music and jazz with them, as no other headphones provide that kind of acoustic space.

I’m fortunate to have an Aune S17 Pro amp, which ensures that I'm driving the headphones I use and test properly. The HD800S really needs good amplification, and the pure class A from the Aune works very well with it.

Unfortunately, much of today’s fast music seems to lack care during the recording process, in fact, I feel that a lot of it is intentionally made poorly for the sake of impact, lol. Speaking of music, I just discovered an artist called Fast Money Music last week. I really like the song "Polar Bear," and his biography is quite interesting!

 

[Audiophiliac]

Hey Purplemind3000, thanks for already comparing stuff to your Utopia's, and still being nice to trying out the HD800's after owning the Utopia's, but most of all, for not even having to say anything before owning the Utopia's.
I automatically dislike anyone who talks about Grado's, since they were outselling any open-backs automatically, just because open-backs are intended to not replace the need for $12k bookshelf 2-driver only speakers, but the road to giving Stax headphones the time-lead they deserve about how soon they realized and went with electrostatic fields exciting a thin film driver that only ever sound better after trading in their headphones with dynamic impact drivers for, and thereby proving that electrostatic headphone-based home reference level audio monitoring was the best recording playback can provide for, and if Les Paul did indeed discover the best way to mic the new electric instruments for amplifiers (always the power supplies it all gets converted into speaker or HP jack taps level power getting plugged straight into your wall outlet, otherwise $8k power conditioners can't save you from an amp not directly powered by your local nuclear reactor, even if your neighborhood boxes still aren't given a final design by an audiophile for minimum noise with your perfect sine wave line to your home), it will only argue that the ideal playback perspective for your electric instrumental recordings, is through headphones anyways, except that it will also mean that good recording engineers will also insist on a second recording of everything also going into a dummy head with a mic in each ear, for a true binaural version only for headphones being available for everything, also. So far, only Pearl Jam has tried a second binaural-only version of an album, but since I still unfortunately found it to be boring, I'm making the binaural-only version have to be a testament for people who don't want to bored themselves, but also insist on still not making me find them offensive no matter what I'm sad to think is still boring anyways. Pearl Jam's Binaural version of an album proves Pearl Jam are at least still smart people I like for that, on top of not trying to be offensive while they're busy having to mind their own business also, even if all of us critics also do have to have that part going on also, so you'd all better shut up and work for it too, at some point.
Anyways, talk about how the Grado badge being BMW to you, just makes you sound like the potable amateur music fan, especially if you like how Sennheiser engineers agreed they lost to Grado, by discovering what the driver with Grado's "therefore Teardrop-Splashes-in-the-Rain" sound signature was one that nobody else could beat at everything including being a Dark-and-Veiled ruler-flat FR compared to Grado's until comfortably later on top of over $3k vs $1.5k or whatever it was exactly, plus, it does look true that the floppy lambskin earpads of the Stax on-ear $2.5k heroes look totally uncomfortable compared to my HD800 gigantic-circumference and yet also not thick ear cushions.
Grado fans, keep in mind that the HD800's no longer having a "Dark-and-Veiled" ruler flat frequency response, is why so many people both insist on hating as well as beating the HD800's at excelling at everything besides just having to be dark and veiled compared to the HD800's. The response is 100% agreement that no longer being dark and veiled to the mean portable Grado camp is why the HD800's are failing compared o many people's original HD600's, and my only complaint about those remains probably forever now to be that people should still only expect so much from $500 cans, meanwhile there are serious attempts for $300k+ loudspeaker awards, including even the Utopia's own parents, Focal.
But anyways, welcome for your input that waits until it's experienced first, even if it includes wearing your own Grado preference for telling the whole world that a flat frequency response is too "dark and veiled" like it's a BMW hood logo. But yet you're being nice to the HD800 fans. Oh wait, I officially disliked the Teardrop-Splashes-in-the-Rain Grado signature of my HD800's, until I discovered the Sonarworks System-Wide EQ solution for all headphones, who also included the tiniest footprint ever EQ solution ever when used as a plug-in only by your own personal choice for best "dedicated file player software only" so far. After I say that, Grado fans are supposed to love the new and improved FR of the still-ridiculous for thinking open-backs will win the portable headphone crowd, especially since it's still just because you haven't heard the Grado's through the true winners of portable plack-back first: The original 1994 $300 official Sony CD Walkman, for naturally including the best of the original type of D/A chip available at the time, since it was on top of the new one that's cheaper yet not as realistic as the original ladder-type, and the biggest joke of all for Sony, has always been trying to beat them by selling worse analog before line-out sections all formats will automatically be ruled by first. Trying to beat Sony by selling worse line-outs was made into a legendary joke by that one Sony ad I saw for the 2020 40th anniversary $3k as a limited edition version Walkman, that was totally serious about money into balanced HQ playback all the way to your output for portables jack (which you technically get a cheap version of by buying into if you ever go for bluetooth earbuds, which will automatically require a complete mono playback system for each ear, instead of more money into a stereo system if you can use a cable to attach both sides to it).
I have to jump to a forum dedicated to people who also discover that my backup amp I got to keep since the original owner ran off with my old best monitor that existed for 24" 1080p sounds too good not to have people saying I'm right, it actually did show off the best a 1978 amp could offer, only to find out that that's normal for the best 1979 amp to sound like, but also that both pre-amp and amp each get recommended buys if not outright outrageous deals when they can be found used at $450 for either piece. There's one guy in the forum dedicated to late-bloomers about this 1979 pre-amp/final big amp of the line level by this power-supply combination who's 3rd point is: @Everyone: I have the complete copies of all service manuals for all components of this line (which includes a tuner and cassette deck, in case anyone hasn't heard a tuner outside of being something's combo part, not with it's own $450 analog output, for actual improved reference listening thanks only to your cities personal choice for strongest public radio broadcast signal.
I'd also like to complain about my even more gigantic size soundstage I got myself from my HD800's. That $60 power cable that's super fat with the cheap shielding you won't normally get for $60 either? Total garbage as far as the less RESISTANCE to sounding live that you get for your same priced but skinny due to purification cable. I know, it's still better than the original stock cable with the same lack of purification, but what a waste spending just for soundstage increasing over a cheap stock cable, instead of sounding more expensive since it sounds more live.

 

[recincarnate]

Hey Purplemind3000, thanks for already comparing stuff to your Utopia's, and still being nice to trying out the HD800's after owning the Utopia's, but most of all, for not even having to say anything before owning the Utopia's.
I automatically dislike anyone who talks about Grado's, since they were outselling any open-backs automatically, just because open-backs are intended to not replace the need for $12k bookshelf 2-driver only speakers, but the road to giving Stax headphones the time-lead they deserve about how soon they realized and went with electrostatic fields exciting a thin film driver that only ever sound better after trading in their headphones with dynamic impact drivers for, and thereby proving that electrostatic headphone-based home reference level audio monitoring was the best recording playback can provide for, and if Les Paul did indeed discover the best way to mic the new electric instruments for amplifiers (always the power supplies it all gets converted into speaker or HP jack taps level power getting plugged straight into your wall outlet, otherwise $8k power conditioners can't save you from an amp not directly powered by your local nuclear reactor, even if your neighborhood boxes still aren't given a final design by an audiophile for minimum noise with your perfect sine wave line to your home), it will only argue that the ideal playback perspective for your electric instrumental recordings, is through headphones anyways, except that it will also mean that good recording engineers will also insist on a second recording of everything also going into a dummy head with a mic in each ear, for a true binaural version only for headphones being available for everything, also. So far, only Pearl Jam has tried a second binaural-only version of an album, but since I still unfortunately found it to be boring, I'm making the binaural-only version have to be a testament for people who don't want to bored themselves, but also insist on still not making me find them offensive no matter what I'm sad to think is still boring anyways. Pearl Jam's Binaural version of an album proves Pearl Jam are at least still smart people I like for that, on top of not trying to be offensive while they're busy having to mind their own business also, even if all of us critics also do have to have that part going on also, so you'd all better shut up and work for it too, at some point.
Anyways, talk about how the Grado badge being BMW to you, just makes you sound like the potable amateur music fan, especially if you like how Sennheiser engineers agreed they lost to Grado, by discovering what the driver with Grado's "therefore Teardrop-Splashes-in-the-Rain" sound signature was one that nobody else could beat at everything including being a Dark-and-Veiled ruler-flat FR compared to Grado's until comfortably later on top of over $3k vs $1.5k or whatever it was exactly, plus, it does look true that the floppy lambskin earpads of the Stax on-ear $2.5k heroes look totally uncomfortable compared to my HD800 gigantic-circumference and yet also not thick ear cushions.
Grado fans, keep in mind that the HD800's no longer having a "Dark-and-Veiled" ruler flat frequency response, is why so many people both insist on hating as well as beating the HD800's at excelling at everything besides just having to be dark and veiled compared to the HD800's. The response is 100% agreement that no longer being dark and veiled to the mean portable Grado camp is why the HD800's are failing compared o many people's original HD600's, and my only complaint about those remains probably forever now to be that people should still only expect so much from $500 cans, meanwhile there are serious attempts for $300k+ loudspeaker awards, including even the Utopia's own parents, Focal.
But anyways, welcome for your input that waits until it's experienced first, even if it includes wearing your own Grado preference for telling the whole world that a flat frequency response is too "dark and veiled" like it's a BMW hood logo. But yet you're being nice to the HD800 fans. Oh wait, I officially disliked the Teardrop-Splashes-in-the-Rain Grado signature of my HD800's, until I discovered the Sonarworks System-Wide EQ solution for all headphones, who also included the tiniest footprint ever EQ solution ever when used as a plug-in only by your own personal choice for best "dedicated file player software only" so far. After I say that, Grado fans are supposed to love the new and improved FR of the still-ridiculous for thinking open-backs will win the portable headphone crowd, especially since it's still just because you haven't heard the Grado's through the true winners of portable plack-back first: The original 1994 $300 official Sony CD Walkman, for naturally including the best of the original type of D/A chip available at the time, since it was on top of the new one that's cheaper yet not as realistic as the original ladder-type, and the biggest joke of all for Sony, has always been trying to beat them by selling worse analog before line-out sections all formats will automatically be ruled by first. Trying to beat Sony by selling worse line-outs was made into a legendary joke by that one Sony ad I saw for the 2020 40th anniversary $3k as a limited edition version Walkman, that was totally serious about money into balanced HQ playback all the way to your output for portables jack (which you technically get a cheap version of by buying into if you ever go for bluetooth earbuds, which will automatically require a complete mono playback system for each ear, instead of more money into a stereo system if you can use a cable to attach both sides to it).
I have to jump to a forum dedicated to people who also discover that my backup amp I got to keep since the original owner ran off with my old best monitor that existed for 24" 1080p sounds too good not to have people saying I'm right, it actually did show off the best a 1978 amp could offer, only to find out that that's normal for the best 1979 amp to sound like, but also that both pre-amp and amp each get recommended buys if not outright outrageous deals when they can be found used at $450 for either piece. There's one guy in the forum dedicated to late-bloomers about this 1979 pre-amp/final big amp of the line level by this power-supply combination who's 3rd point is: @Everyone: I have the complete copies of all service manuals for all components of this line (which includes a tuner and cassette deck, in case anyone hasn't heard a tuner outside of being something's combo part, not with it's own $450 analog output, for actual improved reference listening thanks only to your cities personal choice for strongest public radio broadcast signal.
I'd also like to complain about my even more gigantic size soundstage I got myself from my HD800's. That $60 power cable that's super fat with the cheap shielding you won't normally get for $60 either? Total garbage as far as the less RESISTANCE to sounding live that you get for your same priced but skinny due to purification cable. I know, it's still better than the original stock cable with the same lack of purification, but what a waste spending just for soundstage increasing over a cheap stock cable, instead of sounding more expensive since it sounds more live.

Holy crap. Unhinged.

 

[Purplemind3000]

Hey Purplemind3000, thanks for already comparing stuff to your Utopia's, and still being nice to trying out the HD800's after owning the Utopia's, but most of all, for not even having to say anything before owning the Utopia's.
I automatically dislike anyone who talks about Grado's, since they were outselling any open-backs automatically, just because open-backs are intended to not replace the need for $12k bookshelf 2-driver only speakers, but the road to giving Stax headphones the time-lead they deserve about how soon they realized and went with electrostatic fields exciting a thin film driver that only ever sound better after trading in their headphones with dynamic impact drivers for, and thereby proving that electrostatic headphone-based home reference level audio monitoring was the best recording playback can provide for, and if Les Paul did indeed discover the best way to mic the new electric instruments for amplifiers (always the power supplies it all gets converted into speaker or HP jack taps level power getting plugged straight into your wall outlet, otherwise $8k power conditioners can't save you from an amp not directly powered by your local nuclear reactor, even if your neighborhood boxes still aren't given a final design by an audiophile for minimum noise with your perfect sine wave line to your home), it will only argue that the ideal playback perspective for your electric instrumental recordings, is through headphones anyways, except that it will also mean that good recording engineers will also insist on a second recording of everything also going into a dummy head with a mic in each ear, for a true binaural version only for headphones being available for everything, also. So far, only Pearl Jam has tried a second binaural-only version of an album, but since I still unfortunately found it to be boring, I'm making the binaural-only version have to be a testament for people who don't want to bored themselves, but also insist on still not making me find them offensive no matter what I'm sad to think is still boring anyways. Pearl Jam's Binaural version of an album proves Pearl Jam are at least still smart people I like for that, on top of not trying to be offensive while they're busy having to mind their own business also, even if all of us critics also do have to have that part going on also, so you'd all better shut up and work for it too, at some point.
Anyways, talk about how the Grado badge being BMW to you, just makes you sound like the potable amateur music fan, especially if you like how Sennheiser engineers agreed they lost to Grado, by discovering what the driver with Grado's "therefore Teardrop-Splashes-in-the-Rain" sound signature was one that nobody else could beat at everything including being a Dark-and-Veiled ruler-flat FR compared to Grado's until comfortably later on top of over $3k vs $1.5k or whatever it was exactly, plus, it does look true that the floppy lambskin earpads of the Stax on-ear $2.5k heroes look totally uncomfortable compared to my HD800 gigantic-circumference and yet also not thick ear cushions.
Grado fans, keep in mind that the HD800's no longer having a "Dark-and-Veiled" ruler flat frequency response, is why so many people both insist on hating as well as beating the HD800's at excelling at everything besides just having to be dark and veiled compared to the HD800's. The response is 100% agreement that no longer being dark and veiled to the mean portable Grado camp is why the HD800's are failing compared o many people's original HD600's, and my only complaint about those remains probably forever now to be that people should still only expect so much from $500 cans, meanwhile there are serious attempts for $300k+ loudspeaker awards, including even the Utopia's own parents, Focal.
But anyways, welcome for your input that waits until it's experienced first, even if it includes wearing your own Grado preference for telling the whole world that a flat frequency response is too "dark and veiled" like it's a BMW hood logo. But yet you're being nice to the HD800 fans. Oh wait, I officially disliked the Teardrop-Splashes-in-the-Rain Grado signature of my HD800's, until I discovered the Sonarworks System-Wide EQ solution for all headphones, who also included the tiniest footprint ever EQ solution ever when used as a plug-in only by your own personal choice for best "dedicated file player software only" so far. After I say that, Grado fans are supposed to love the new and improved FR of the still-ridiculous for thinking open-backs will win the portable headphone crowd, especially since it's still just because you haven't heard the Grado's through the true winners of portable plack-back first: The original 1994 $300 official Sony CD Walkman, for naturally including the best of the original type of D/A chip available at the time, since it was on top of the new one that's cheaper yet not as realistic as the original ladder-type, and the biggest joke of all for Sony, has always been trying to beat them by selling worse analog before line-out sections all formats will automatically be ruled by first. Trying to beat Sony by selling worse line-outs was made into a legendary joke by that one Sony ad I saw for the 2020 40th anniversary $3k as a limited edition version Walkman, that was totally serious about money into balanced HQ playback all the way to your output for portables jack (which you technically get a cheap version of by buying into if you ever go for bluetooth earbuds, which will automatically require a complete mono playback system for each ear, instead of more money into a stereo system if you can use a cable to attach both sides to it).
I have to jump to a forum dedicated to people who also discover that my backup amp I got to keep since the original owner ran off with my old best monitor that existed for 24" 1080p sounds too good not to have people saying I'm right, it actually did show off the best a 1978 amp could offer, only to find out that that's normal for the best 1979 amp to sound like, but also that both pre-amp and amp each get recommended buys if not outright outrageous deals when they can be found used at $450 for either piece. There's one guy in the forum dedicated to late-bloomers about this 1979 pre-amp/final big amp of the line level by this power-supply combination who's 3rd point is: @Everyone: I have the complete copies of all service manuals for all components of this line (which includes a tuner and cassette deck, in case anyone hasn't heard a tuner outside of being something's combo part, not with it's own $450 analog output, for actual improved reference listening thanks only to your cities personal choice for strongest public radio broadcast signal.
I'd also like to complain about my even more gigantic size soundstage I got myself from my HD800's. That $60 power cable that's super fat with the cheap shielding you won't normally get for $60 either? Total garbage as far as the less RESISTANCE to sounding live that you get for your same priced but skinny due to purification cable. I know, it's still better than the original stock cable with the same lack of purification, but what a waste spending just for soundstage increasing over a cheap stock cable, instead of sounding more expensive since it sounds more live.

Wow, that's quite a comprehensive overview of the audio world! I feel like I just got a crash course in everything from Grados to power conditioners. Thanks for sharing your expertise!

 

[JerseyD]

From “unhinged” to “a comprehensive overview”! I was leaning toward the former, but with a couple paragraph breaks, transitional phrases, and a firmer command of english grammar, it may very well lean toward the latter! Fun stuff!