[Saad Abdul Aziz]

hi i just got the hd800s and have abit of a question if you play this video at ragnarok 12-1 oclock knob 3rd gain does your bass distort with 100 percent volume on windows
 around 40 seconds onwards just giving link for exact reference where the bass plays 

let me know please wanna check if its just my specific model or a normal thing cause i felt my previous hd800 did not at the same volume but i feel theres more bass at lower volume maybe thats the reason if you could check that would be great thanks

 

[Saad Abdul Aziz]

bump really need help on this no one has a similar system to check

 

[dharma]

  bump really need help on this no one has a similar system to check

Hello, maybe just ask directly from Ragnarok threads and/or HD800S threads here in Head-Fi forums... maybe it wasn't necessary to start new thread if both accessories are already in discussion here...

 

[johnjen]

Have you checked to make sure your s/w player isn't clipping as well?

I usually don't run in gain mode-3, I use gain -2 and run the volume knob up to 3:00.
Which is roughly equivalent to gain-3 at ≈ 1:30

I hear no clipping, as long as my s/w doesn't clip.

And I'm adding ≈15+ dB at the very low end (15Hz and up)

JJ

 

[Saad Abdul Aziz]

Have you checked to make sure your s/w player isn't clipping as well?

I usually don't run in gain mode-3, I use gain -2 and run the volume knob up to 3:00.
Which is roughly equivalent to gain-3 at ≈ 1:30

I hear no clipping, as long as my s/w doesn't clip.

And I'm adding ≈15+ dB at the very low end (15Hz and up)

JJ

am not talking about clipping but distorted bass likes it distorted understand?  at gain 2 and volume knob to 3:00  its massively distorted XD

 

[Currawong]

What model DAC are you using?

 

[Saad Abdul Aziz]

  What model DAC are you using?

yggdrasil

 

[Currawong]

 I'm adding ≈15+ dB at the very low end (15Hz and up)

 
If you remove that addition, does it still distort? EQ'ing up a lot in one frequency will likely cause clipping in the digital domain.

 

[Currawong]

This is the waveform of the audio track, which is already close to -0 dB. It's obvious increasing the bass by 15dB is causing it to clip.
 

 

[Saad Abdul Aziz]

   
If you remove that addition, does it still distort? EQ'ing up a lot in one frequency will likely cause clipping in the digital domain.

i did not eq your reading a comment from another guy rofl 

 

[Currawong]

Sorry about that! 

 

[johnjen]

This is the waveform of the audio track, which is already close to -0 dB. It's obvious increasing the bass by 15dB is causing it to clip.

Just looking at that track I see overload conditions.
I did try to download that file but there was a problem so I can't run it thru my system as a stand alone file.

So I played the track from youtube and it is in an ongoing state of clipping.
I can hear clipping 'artifacts' and the peak levels (not the average output levels) are 'saturated'.

This is one of those dance/electro tracks that are pushed to 100%+ modulation.
On really good gear (the Jggy) the clipping will be very obvious.

Try reducing the output of the player before it passes into the the rest of your system, or put up with the 'effect' that this 'hot' track delivers.

JJ

 

[Saad Abdul Aziz]

i have the same thing happen at stole the show by kygo at the same volume 
 
anyways all tracks have similar results here is what i mean by distortion i guess am not using the write words
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_97N4qCg74

 

[johnjen]

If you lower the output from your player this will reduce the distortion because the song IS distorted.

It is very clear when you look at the graph that Currawong posted.

Do you see how the lighter blue portion of the 'volume' window 'flatlines' at the very top and bottom?

That means the dynamic peaks are at 100%.
This IS clipping.

When I played it from Youtube it clipped.

Again lower your playback volume on your player (browser or streamer etc.) by 1/3 to 1/4 and then listen again.

If the track wasn't recorded with it's peak dynamics at 100% (or greater) then the distortion should get Much better, if not go away, after you lower the output volume of your player.

JJ

 

[kazsud]

  Sorry about that! 

It was still

  i have the same thing happen at stole the show by kygo at the same volume 
 
anyways all tracks have similar results here is what i mean by distortion i guess am not using the write words
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_97N4qCg74

I've heard that on my HD800 when I drive it w/ my vintage pioneer receiver. It's too much of something so I would set the gain to 2 on the Rag and see if you can hear it at the same listening level.
 
I just got the Rag and will have the 800 S 2-3 weeks. I'll try it when I get it.
 
 
Also try to listen to the same song on spotify or apple music.