HD600: Unreal Price

May 27, 2005 at 6:37 AM Post #106 of 214
Have any aussies bought these from Amazon using shopthestates? If so, were you hit with any custom fees?
 
May 27, 2005 at 7:05 AM Post #107 of 214
J&R Music World had em for $199 brand new in the box a while back... thats when I bought mine.
 
May 29, 2005 at 5:19 AM Post #113 of 214
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Originally Posted by SptsNaz
It sure feels like plastic to me...


Carbon fiber is plastic. Fiber-reinforced plastic.

Is it really carbon fiber? I found no proof in the brief instructions that came with the 'phones or on the Sennheiser USA website, but the construction is mentioned in several reviews, including this one from Stereophile magazine. Could they all be deluded? They could.

I suspect that if it is carbon fiber, it's not woven or wound carbon as we're used to seeing in our bikes and golf clubs but rather a cheaper chopped-fiber type reinforcement, since the aim isn't to make the 'phones indestructible but to damp vibration. I guess the only way to really find out would be to break one the driver frames. I don't know if the headpiece is carbon reinforced as well, though it looks similar.
 
May 29, 2005 at 5:25 AM Post #114 of 214
The HD580 Jubilee Edition looks like carbon fiber.

580jubilee8ut.jpg


I'm not sure about the HD600 though.
 
May 29, 2005 at 4:48 PM Post #116 of 214
I use a lot of carbon fibers parts on my mountain bike, and depending on the mix, some feel plastic-y and some don't. Sometimes it is mixed with a resin or epoxy, or threading that gives it more strength. Sennheiser states that it is carbon fiber, and that and a couple of other material differences, which absorb vibrations better, are the only things that make it different, and more money, than the HD580's.
 
May 29, 2005 at 6:57 PM Post #117 of 214
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Originally Posted by immtbiker
I use a lot of carbon fibers parts on my mountain bike, and depending on the mix, some feel plastic-y and some don't. Sometimes it is mixed with a resin or epoxy, or threading that gives it more strength.


I'm not sure what you mean by threading, but carbon fiber is always mixed with a thermoplastic or thermosetting plastic.

But you're right-- sometimes there's a minimal amount of plastic matrix. On my LP Composites handlebar the epoxy (which is a resin) is so thinned-out that the bar feels almost like ceramic. On the other hand, my Specialized thermoplastic bar looks waxy, like a gigantic carbon-fiber candle.


Quote:

Sennheiser states that it is carbon fiber...


Aha! Where'd you find that?
 
May 29, 2005 at 7:01 PM Post #118 of 214
If anyone is interested, jr.com is selling the brand new one for $250 with free shipping. Here's the quote I got from my email

Here is the information you requested:
SENNHEISER HD600 Corded Headphones
$349.99 - Suggested Retail Price
$249.99 - YOUR PRICE
Please click here to view or purchase this product at the discounted
price:
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=2853757

Looks like a good buy considering the refurb on Amazon.com has gone up agian. Wondering if I should get this to replace my 10-yr old hd-580.
 
May 29, 2005 at 7:06 PM Post #119 of 214
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Originally Posted by Borat
The HD580 Jubilee Edition looks like carbon fiber.

I'm not sure about the HD600 though.



That's more than likely a fake finish, since it is EXTREMELY difficult and expensive to work carbon fibre in such small and complex shapes. If you look at the Qualia, which does have some carbon fibre on it, it is very straightforward pieces and a much much more expensive headphone.

Also, it is my understanding that carbon fibre is made from graphite--the fibres themselves make up the majority of the material and strength, regardless of the plastic mixed with it. To say that it IS plastic is a bit of a stretch.

jesse
 
May 29, 2005 at 8:42 PM Post #120 of 214
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Originally Posted by wualta
I'm not sure what you mean by threading, but carbon fiber is always mixed with a thermoplastic or thermosetting plastic.

But you're right-- sometimes there's a minimal amount of plastic matrix. On my LP Composites handlebar the epoxy (which is a resin) is so thinned-out that the bar feels almost like ceramic. On the other hand, my Specialized thermoplastic bar looks waxy, like a gigantic carbon-fiber candle.



I have the LP Composites bar-ends, and seat post...light and strong.
I used to have the GT LTS Thermoplastic bike, but I sold it because of the infamous rear pivot squeak (even tried the bearing upgrade). Not only was it a poor climber, but it was downright scary on the downhills. But it was the coolest looking bike to come around after the groundbreaking Trek Y frame.

I will try to find a link about the Sennheiser headband, being carbon fiber.
 

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