matti620
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I'm curious for the gain in quality reported when tested blindly. I'm skeptic it has a noticeable difference.
Many. No difference has been detected in double blind testing.
See the sound science subforum.
So how come I read in the forums again and again how a $400 headphone cable either "improves bass clarity", or "makes a day and night" difference?..
So how come I read in the forums again and again how a $400 headphone cable either "improves bass clarity", or "makes a day and night" difference?..
Expectation bias, among other things. People (consciously or not) have read or otherwise expect that they will hear differences, and so they do (witness the "silver is brighter, copper is warmer" discussions). All such differences vanish in ABX and double blind testing (even when believers and "golden ears" take the tests)
There are sometimes good reasons to recable - or make custom interconnects, etc. Ergonomics, aesthetics, etc. But none are sound related. With that said - there are unconscious psycho-acoustic factors that play on all of us that does affect our "perception" of what we hear, and many people are ok with that being the extent of why they think they hear changes.
Personally, beyond the fun of DIY and my own personal ergonomic and aesthetic preferences for cables, I prefer spending the real money on changes that actually can be demonstrated to objectively improve sound.
Science has an incredibly limited understanding of psychoacoustics, and of the brain's cognitive functioning in general. So it's ludicrous to think that everything we perceive can be tested and measured.
Science has an incredibly limited understanding of psychoacoustics, and of the brain's cognitive functioning in general. So it's ludicrous to think that everything we perceive can be tested and measured.
I think what gets people all up in a fuss - rightly, in my opinion - is that you've got all these idiot boutique sellers claiming that their $4000 cables make this huge difference, which is just pathetic. Basically, I think it's pretty straightforward - get equipment YOU CAN RETURN and if YOU like how it sounds, then keep it, and if you can't hear a difference, there's no reason to keep it!
But all these BS debates on the sound science forums are extended masturbation sessions, where lots of people who think they know much more than they actually do end up talking past each other into the void. It's sad. And that's why they exile those people to that one little forum, so they don't wreck the rest of the forum with their endless diatribes one way or another.
I didn't believe in cable differences either until I ran up against them in practice. It wasn't even subtle.
I'm curious for the gain in quality reported when tested blindly. I'm skeptic it has a noticeable difference.
Science has an incredibly limited understanding of psychoacoustics, and of the brain's cognitive functioning in general.
So it's ludicrous to think that everything we perceive can be tested and measured.
Can anyone link me to the double blind testing that was conducted with people with respectable hearing abilities? Kind of curious since I see people buying UM3x cables for considerably more than I bought my UM3x for. I can't imagine these people are just paying $400 for a different color...