[kwitel]

I find the name "hardcore" to sometimes be a bit too broad of a title...looking for quality music with limited cookie monster vocals.

-Along the lines of the Deftones, Sytem of a Down (although most of their material gets boring quick-too simple) and Pantera.
Was listening to "Vulgar Display of Power" this morning at the gym-what an album that is.
Recommendations?

 

[MdRex]

Underoath. Cookie monster vocals are inevitable in hardcore.

 

[titaniumx3]

What exactly is hardcore? I just seem to bunch it with stuff like metalcore, math metal, etc etc.

 

[GlendaleViper]

Uhh... hardcore is actually a style of punk rock, a la Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat and even early AFI.

I think you're looking for some Grind or MetalCore. I can recommend a few:

Death by Stereo
Unearth
At the Gates (Cobra Commander voice alert)

If you want to see the roots of hardcore punk bleeding into metal territory, do yourself a favour and check out DRI. Stupid, stupid music, but fun and bloody heavy.

 

[Beach123456]

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Originally Posted by kwitel I find the name "hardcore" to sometimes be a bit too broad of a title...looking for quality music with limited cookie monster vocals. -Along the lines of the Deftones, Sytem of a Down (although most of their material gets boring quick-too simple) and Pantera. Was listening to "Vulgar Display of Power" this morning at the gym-what an album that is. Recommendations?

The bands you named aren't really Hardcore, and i think you're gonna have a lot of trouble finding hardcore music without the metal vocals.

 

[kwitel]

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Originally Posted by Beach123456 The bands you named aren't really Hardcore, and i think you're gonna have a lot of trouble finding hardcore music without the metal vocals.

How then would you describe the music I listed?
I like aggressive music with a sludgey sounds...really digging Chevelle right now-never really got into them.
Id really like to find something like ISIS, but with vocals.

Oh-and I forgot to add Mastodon to my original post.

 

[Enverxis]

you might try So I Had To Shoot Him, which is a mix of Stoner Rock and Hardcore, with a female singer.

 

[jonnywolfet]

okay,
check out the new ISIS "in the absence of truth" which is a new direction for isis, with a lot of clean vocals.
'sleep terror' are an instrumental jazzy technical metal band
if you like the Arminian sound of system of a down, but not the lack of musical variety, check out 'Giant Squid'
If you havent heard tool, check them out. (you probably have)

there's not really a great deal of aggressive music out there without aggressive vocals

so with that in mind, here are some aggressive bands that show the diversity of the genre:
Superjoint Ritual (phil from pantera on vocals), Will Haven (hardcore metal), Cult of Luna (if you like isis), Pitchshifter (a blend of Drum and Bass and Nu-Metal, but better than it sounds), Opeth (Melodic Death Metal), Vision of Disorder (a blend of classic metal and hardcore), Meshuggah (very very very technical metal, difficult to get into, but worth it), Death (classic Death metal), Dysrhythmia (not really metal, very jazzy, coolness) Killswitch Engage (classic metalcore), Machine Head (British heavy metal) Orange Goblin (doomy metal with a party vibe), Pagan's Mind (progressive metal, bordering on power metal), Textures (hardcorish metal, check out 'polars' for a mix of clean and screaming vocals).
Obviously use your discression, some metal is not very accessible to people new to the genre, but there are a wealth of awesome bands out there, and to me nothing empowers the way that metal does. i hope you find a few gems in there, and find yourself lost in the world of heavy metal!!!

 

[kwitel]

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Originally Posted by jonnywolfet okay, check out the new ISIS "in the absence of truth" which is a new direction for isis, with a lot of clean vocals. 'sleep terror' are an instrumental jazzy technical metal band if you like the Arminian sound of system of a down, but not the lack of musical variety, check out 'Giant Squid' If you havent heard tool, check them out. (you probably have) there's not really a great deal of aggressive music out there without aggressive vocals so with that in mind, here are some aggressive bands that show the diversity of the genre: Superjoint Ritual (phil from pantera on vocals), Will Haven (hardcore metal), Cult of Luna (if you like isis), Pitchshifter (a blend of Drum and Bass and Nu-Metal, but better than it sounds), Opeth (Melodic Death Metal), Vision of Disorder (a blend of classic metal and hardcore), Meshuggah (very very very technical metal, difficult to get into, but worth it), Death (classic Death metal), Dysrhythmia (not really metal, very jazzy, coolness) Killswitch Engage (classic metalcore), Machine Head (British heavy metal) Orange Goblin (doomy metal with a party vibe), Pagan's Mind (progressive metal, bordering on power metal), Textures (hardcorish metal, check out 'polars' for a mix of clean and screaming vocals). Obviously use your discression, some metal is not very accessible to people new to the genre, but there are a wealth of awesome bands out there, and to me nothing empowers the way that metal does. i hope you find a few gems in there, and find yourself lost in the world of heavy metal!!!

Ive got to pick up that new ISIS...saw them open for TOOL, they are one of my favorite present day bands.
Gonna look into Pitchshifter as well-sounds very cool.

 

[jonnywolfet]

awesome, im a huge fan of isis, both older and newer stuff, you should love this album!
as far as pitchshifter is concerned, i would suggest going for either 'www.pitchshifter.com' or 'deviant' first, as these are the most acessible albums. my favorite is 'infotainment' and i dont thing much of 'PSI'.
hope you enjoy!!!

 

[Debaser86]

Check out these albums:

Big Black - "Songs About screwing"
Kylesa - s/t
Bad Brainds - "Rock For Light"
The Hunches - "Hobo Sunrise"
Kyuss - "Blues for the Red Sun"
Melvins - "Houdini"

 

[Beach123456]

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Originally Posted by kwitel How then would you describe the music I listed? I like aggressive music with a sludgey sounds...really digging Chevelle right now-never really got into them. Id really like to find something like ISIS, but with vocals. Oh-and I forgot to add Mastodon to my original post.

Hmmm.... System of A Down I would probably describe as hard rock/nu-metal, and panteras metal with a bit of thrash, and i havent heard too much deftones, but they seem more on the hard rock side. Nothing even close to hardcore, IMO.

 

[asmox]

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Originally Posted by GlendaleViper I think you're looking for some Grind or MetalCore. I can recommend a few: ... At the Gates

Huh?

 

[GlendaleViper]

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Originally Posted by asmox Huh?

What seems to be the problem? At the Gates is basically directly responsible for metalcore.

 

[jimmy_007]

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Originally Posted by GlendaleViper What seems to be the problem? At the Gates is basically directly responsible for metalcore.

At The Gates is more Melodic Death Metal than metalcore, IMO.