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I am still using 1.4 and have zero (0!) problems. Music flows, full nirvana with any type of file resolution...
rafabro: Using the Gustard U-16 ?
pj
I am still using 1.4 and have zero (0!) problems. Music flows, full nirvana with any type of file resolution...
Wow; that's impressive that U-16 'beats' (superior to) SU-1 Singxer (a respected Spdif Bridge). How it compares to something 250% more expensive (SU-6), is almost irrelevant -as $699. US$ is a fair chunk-of-change !
And at that price (SU-6), a missing LP/S and absent display window (i.e. Input Selected/Fs/etc.) is disappointing.
I'm using the excellent U-12 ($150 US$!) with AQ Carbon USB (1.5m) -and AQ 'Chocolate' HDMi i2S Out) and it sounds spectacular ! (Tried the AQ 'Vodka' HDMi -for i2S duties and it was a terrible 'match')
(My digital is powered by a separate (8-AC Outlet) 800W Balanced Power Supply/Transformer,while Pre/Power on a 1.2KVa BPS/T; essential for extracting high-resolution performance from a hi-fi.
The improvements in clarity, dynamics, resolution, signal speed/articulation; musicality, is considerable. )
I suspect the U-16 may be 'clearly' superior (to the U-12?
I'll order one is someone can provide a decent comparison compared to U-12, or SU-1 Singxer. Without question I'll order another AQ Chocolate' for i2S duty.
(BTW, a recent DH Labs USB cable (1.5m) purchase simply annihilated a 3m WW Starlight 7 USB -that although "rich/analog" sounding is ultimately deeply veiled/colored in comparison.
If speed, resolution/articulation -accuracy- is preferred, the DH Labs USB or AQ 'Carbon' wold be recommended.
Currently, I've evaluating the AQ 'Coffee' (0.75m) USB -with near 100-hours logged, it's proving disappointing.)
The U-12 -with Carbon USB/Chocolate i2S- sounds much, much better. (Don't bother with Shunyata (Venom) USB if 'speed/resolution' is desired -it is one of the worst I've heard.)
I remain and continue to be mightily impressed with computer audio (via a simple SBC 'player' no less) -and Internet Radio !
The days of ****ty sounding 128-320 kb/s streams is over, and nothing short of impressive -when transmitted using the best, current "Converters/Compression Algorithms".
I can't wait to store my CD's on a various Hard-Drives/SS Drives (WAV of course) -and listen in this manner. Today's 'digital' can be brilliant !
Sooooo .... if anyone has some interesting 'insight' into the U-16 Gustard, please share -it would be appreciated. Thx,
(Standard 'performance'/ Fs is all that is of interest to me with the U-16; DoP, DSD matters not.)
Thanks in advance,
pj
Yeah, DHl Express free shipping....even faster than domestic Postal service or UPS LoL.....
It is an awesome investment for $285. I had been waiting for something else that is not XMOS or FPGA with ugly firmware and algorithm like Amanero for too long X_X, and I had to grab this U16 LOL
The sound quality with PCM is a huge upgrade accross the board, everything from much better bass articulation with greater dynamic, more airy and better upper frequencies
There is a thread on xu208 ddcs started by rb2013 two years ago. He went from the Gustard u12 to the di-u8 to the f-1 and stated he prefered the singxer f-1 to the di-u8, which itself he prefered to the u12. And it’s been stated that when fed optimally, the su-1 and f-1 are pretty much equal, @DACLadder did mention this.
The singxer offerings are reputed since their original release as beating the u12 by a clear margin.
As for the u16 vs the f-1, IMHO: the f-1 is clearly beaten.
Wow. Excellent. Thank you for that/and link.
pj
See the xu208 thread: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/xmo...gen-has-arrived.803111/page-234#post-12867965
Yes I amrafabro: Using the Gustard U-16 ?
pj
Phone as a source?Hello !
I am very interested in the U16.
I have a few questions :
Is it working with android ? I use my phone as a digital source. Do you need the 5v tension for the U16 to work ? I mean : do you need a powered usb connection to U16 for it to work as is the case with SU1.
Do you know what is the connection convention for denafrips products ? Do you have to reverse L/R on a denafrips DAC with standard firmware V1.4 on U16?
Thanks for any information.
Phone as a source?
U16 doesn't need USB power as stated few posts before.
I2S is fully configurable so no reversed LR channels. Also cleared before in thread.
Works problemless in PCM & DSD Native modes with my Honor 10 (via Hiby Music player), but sound isn't so good as for Gustard ASIO driver for Windows, imo.Is it working with android ? I use my phone as a digital source.
I am still using 1.4 and have zero (0!) problems. Music flows, full nirvana with any type of file resolution...
........ I now hear distinctly details that were muffled before......
You wrong. The source matters for sound quality. It doesn't matter if it's digital.Great !
I believe the sound quality should not be lesser in android if you send bitperfect signal to the U16 and let the dac do the oversampling.
You wrong. The source matters for sound quality. It doesn't matter if it's digital.
You may just accept, is what it is, and that's fine. But it wont be the hi-end sound.