ramicio
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But then again I'm not some old lady with a flimsy ass purse either, haha.
Except the fact that the first guy to get shot at clearly reacted to being hit by SOMETHING. And the papers RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM got hit. Are we going to have another case here of a MAGIC BULLET? His form isn't that sloppy despite using only one hand to hold the gun. People who miss from a few feet away are people who hold the gun sideways with a limp wrist. This guy is holding the gun tight and is a big dude. The one lady tries to knock the gun out of his hand and she seemed like a fly hitting an elephant. Movies are stages for tons of gun shots going off without anyone getting hit. In real life people make shots more accurately than in fiction.
That's the kind of sheep talk that will lead to a police state country. If you see someone in trouble intervene. It takes more balls to intervene and get your ass beat than it takes to be that jerk-off doing the wrong. This is the kind of talk of people who value their own lives over anyone else's. That woman was brave. You would be the person to cower under a desk. Stay out of my way when this world goes downhill and society, and I, lash out.
Except the fact that the first guy to get shot at clearly reacted to being hit by SOMETHING. And the papers RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM got hit. Are we going to have another case here of a MAGIC BULLET? His form isn't that sloppy despite using only one hand to hold the gun. People who miss from a few feet away are people who hold the gun sideways with a limp wrist. This guy is holding the gun tight and is a big dude. The one lady tries to knock the gun out of his hand and she seemed like a fly hitting an elephant. Movies are stages for tons of gun shots going off without anyone getting hit. In real life people make shots more accurately than in fiction.
Umm...the guy is unstable and was looking for blood. You don't see someone with a gun in public and expect nothing is going to happen of it.
armed persons have been talked down by negotiators before
Jeez, how many people are so scared of everything anymore to even make an attempt to disarm someone?
who in that video is in a position to react to him - the officials obstructed behind the desk? others so far away theyre off-camera?
People training to disarm don't disarm actual criminals.
what ?
If the person is someone who is trained at stuff, then yea, it would be stupid to try.
what?
Things reported in mass media are often not true or are skewed, to instill fear in the public.
off-topic
I'd say it was all fake
wow, really...
because if you are going to die you don't sit there are argue with a psycho.
see response #1
You don't swing a purse at some big guy like that.
exactly our point.
If you think you are going to die you fight for your life. If you are fighting with adrenaline then you can be the scrawniest POS and beat up someone many times your size.
That's the kind of sheep talk that will lead to a police state country. If you see someone in trouble intervene. It takes more balls to intervene and get your ass beat than it takes to be that jerk-off doing the wrong. This is the kind of talk of people who value their own lives over anyone else's. That woman was brave. You would be the person to cower under a desk. Stay out of my way when this world goes downhill and society, and I, lash out.
Yeah, a school board chairman is an official negotiator...
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and the fact the chairman attempted to negotiate, and the fact that any normal citizen was just ordered to get out of the room...it then becomes a controlled situation.
Originally Posted by ramicio /img/forum/go_quote.gif
When a cop "trains" to disarm a criminal they don't do so in an actual life and death situation. Someone who is "trained" acts as the criminal and disarms themselves if the technique is done "right."
ramicio said:/img/forum/go_quote.gif
The person who shot the nut is a school security guard, there the whole time, and waiting to shoot until the nut shoots? That's what seems outrageous,
Originally Posted by Maverickmonk /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Agreed. That woman is my hero of the day. Sure, her attempt didn't work, but she (yes she) obviously has more balls than I'd wager 95% of the population has.
People just need to learn to join together and fight instead of relying on one brave person. A criminal will think twice about continuing if a mob of people are charging them, rather than a single person attacking them. Society is so divided just because of personal opinions and beliefs. It's like it's being done on purpose to divide us so we all won't want to join together and fight if something happens.
Wait until the perp shoots is just nuts IMO. If someone waves a gun and creates panic they should be killed immediately. Once you endanger other people's lives like that I believe you should have no rights.
If someone enters my home, gun or not (there's no way of knowing) and threatens me I will shoot them. I will shoot them if they run away. It's my property and I think I should have the right to protect it and punish those to break in. If a perp isn't man enough to enter a home and consider that they might get shot, and then runs away, too bad, I guess they weren't so tough after all, and examples should be made.