[CRESCENDOPOWER]

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Originally Posted by gotchaforce /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sorry but these claims are false.

LOL, not in my system. Which one of those manufactures do you work for?

 

[gotchaforce]

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Originally Posted by CRESCENDOPOWER /img/forum/go_quote.gif LOL, not in my system.

Exactly, so why do you state it as fact? Why not say "TO MY EARS (emphasis on "my"), and on MY system, the grover S cables sounds better than all of these cables"

 

[909]

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Originally Posted by gotchaforce /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sorry but these claims are false.

One's subjective opinion isn't necessarily true or false... It's just a "matter of opinion" which is not capable of being "proven" either way.

I sold my Cardas Neutral References because the Grover UR8s were superior in my rig.

 

[gotchaforce]

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Originally Posted by 909 /img/forum/go_quote.gif One's subjective opinion isn't necessarily true or false... It's just a "matter of opinion" which is not capable of being "proven" either way. I sold my Cardas Neutral References because the Grover UR8s were superior in my rig.

Yes, exactly! One's opinion can be just that, but the problem is you guys are throwing around words that state these opinions as facts. This would be equivalent to me saying "Grover cables sound good on monday, tuesday, and friday, any other day and it will sound worse than stuff you can buy at radioshack" (of course this is a fake statement though, i do not want anyone quoting me on this haha).

 

[CRESCENDOPOWER]

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Originally Posted by gotchaforce /img/forum/go_quote.gif Exactly, so why do you state it as fact? Why not say "TO MY EARS (emphasis on "my"), and on MY system, the grover S cables sounds better than all of these cables"

You are correct, I should of said, "In my system, and to my ears." And, I do believe that the Grover S is not the answer for every system.

 

[909]

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Originally Posted by gotchaforce /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yes, exactly! One's opinion can be just that, but the problem is you guys are throwing around words that state these opinions as facts. This would be equivalent to me saying "Grover cables sound good on monday, tuesday, and friday, any other day and it will sound worse than stuff you can buy at radioshack" (of course this is a fake statement though, i do not want anyone quoting me on this haha).

Hair splitting....

You aren't giving people enough due! I believe most have the same ability as you to process and filter information. If someone doesn't realize some of these unqualified words/statements (posts, threads, reviews, whatever) are "opinions" someone always having to preface it with my ear, rig, etc isn't going to make a difference (IMO

).

 

[Absolute0]

I have the UR8's and am perfectly happy with them. But the Grover S is such a tease... What's the upgrade policy on these nowadays?

 

[duff138]

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Originally Posted by 909 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Curious as to where we are in the current S evolution My do look similar, but pics can be deceiving... I believe I got the original S and then exchanged those for the second incarnation, which I like a great deal more.

There's a new "S"?

 

[909]

read the thread!

Lazy..

But there are without question at least two "S" version.

 

[stressnot]

It's hard to keep up, but, yes, there are indeed at least 2 versions of the 'S' IC.

After getting 3 of these in early December, I had Grover give them his latest tweak last month (this was out of drivenness, not dissatisfaction). I've had these for two and a half weeks now, and love them!

 

[chesebert]

any one having experience with Grover spkr cable?
Any comparisons done?

 

[DarkAngel]

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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif any one having experience with Grover spkr cable? Any comparisons done?

Did you see 1st post with photo?

They are excellent like the ICs, perhaps even stronger vs competition on a relative scale, sold my $1100 AZ Hologram II cables since they offered nothing the Grover S couldn't do at 1/3 the price......I am 100% Grover S now (all cables all systems)

Why not ask Grover to make you balanced Grover S to replace that generic Mogami XLR for computer system?

 

[stressnot]

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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif any one having experience with Grover spkr cable? Any comparisons done?

I'm using a quad pair of his S speaker cables, which I have biwired (replacing the SR/UR combination of his that I used to use), and it sounds great!

 

[rlmacklin]

I have now used Grover S bi-wire speaker cables for one month on Polk SDA-SRS2 speakers (with upgraded RD-0194 silk dome tweeters and with upgraded crossovers using tighter spec Solen caps and Mills resistors), replacing older Grover UR single run speaker cables. The Grover S bi-wires provide greater presence/detail and better depth in soundstage than the Grover UR did on same speakers. I am running a custom SDA speaker interconnect cable made by Grover from his UR wire.

The Grover UR speaker cables are moved to surround channels duty, replacing and outperforming Element Cable Twisted Pair speaker cable on Polk Fxi-5s.
Still using Grover SR speaker cable on center channel Polk CSi-5.

All ICs are Grover S.

All power cords are Black Sand Violets.

Source: Denon DVD-3910

Front left/right preamp: Modwright SWL 9.0 SE with Bendix 6900 tubes and tube rectified power supply (stock Sovtek 5AR4 until Mullard 5AR4 arrives).

Surround preamp: PS Audio PCA-2

Center channel preamp: Sunfire Symphonic Reference

Front left/right amps: Odyssey Mono Extreme SE (w/ Klaus's "special boards")

Surround and center amp: Odyssey HT-3 with capacitance upgrade.

 

[Puppysmith]

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Originally Posted by rlmacklin /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have now used Grover S bi-wire speaker cables for one month on Polk SDA-SRS2 speakers (with upgraded RD-0194 silk dome tweeters and with upgraded crossovers using tighter spec Solen caps and Mills resistors), replacing older Grover UR single run speaker cables. The Grover S bi-wires provide greater presence/detail and better depth in soundstage than the Grover UR did on same speakers. I am running a custom SDA speaker interconnect cable made by Grover from his UR wire. The Grover UR speaker cables are moved to surround channels duty, replacing and outperforming Element Cable Twisted Pair speaker cable on Polk Fxi-5s. Still using Grover SR speaker cable on center channel Polk CSi-5. All ICs are Grover S. All power cords are Black Sand Violets. Source: Denon DVD-3910 Front left/right preamp: Modwright SWL 9.0 SE with Bendix 6900 tubes and tube rectified power supply (stock Sovtek 5AR4 until Mullard 5AR4 arrives). Surround preamp: PS Audio PCA-2 Center channel preamp: Sunfire Symphonic Reference Front left/right amps: Odyssey Mono Extreme SE (w/ Klaus's "special boards") Surround and center amp: Odyssey HT-3 with capacitance upgrade.

Nice!!