Grado GS1000...something's not right here (newbie)

[robm321]

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Originally Posted by nickchen /img/forum/go_quote.gif Don't bring the K1000 in here, that thing isn't a headphone, it's a near field monitor that pretends being a headphone.

LOL can't argue with that

 

[Patu]

IMO source has more to do with overall SQ than amping. I used to believe that amping is more important but not anymore. If you feed crap to your amp, it won't magically convert to gold when amplified. Both are very important though.

 

[mark_h]

Again!!! They are most probably broken if they do not improve on almost every aspect of the sr80 and as you say the y are shrill and "muffled!" your amp will easily drive these phones, admittedly it isn't a HP4 but it will not make the GS1000 sound like you describe! Replace them under warranty while you still have time! alternatively you can leave them to burn in until your warranty runs out then replace them at cost?

 

[Mortalcoil]

Personally, I would give your ears some time to adjust to the GSk sound. Coming from the "in your face" SR-80 you may be experiencing a bit of ear shock.

Remember your ears have been trained to listen for that SR-80 sound sig , and as we all can agree the GSk wanders way off that predictable path.

In a nutshell , its a totally different beast ....give the GSk and your ears some time to adapt. Anyways, congrats on the purchase.

 

[Death]

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Originally Posted by robm321 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think we missed an important question and that's what kind of music do you mostly listen to OP? If you don't listen to jazz or classical, then being a former RS-1 owner - I have to say RS-1s definately have to be experienced at least once in a lifetime = I could never go back. The GS-1000 takes all genres to another level for me, but in a different system and for a rock only fan, the RS-1s would probably be a better fit.

I listen to a rather wide range of music styles. Lately I've been listening a lot to this radio station that only webcasts "chillout" music (this one for the record), and also choir music for some reason. Other periods have been dominated by rock, jazz, pop, trip-hop, classical, hiphop, game-music, pornfunk, music that is so terrible it becomes good (example) etc. What I can't stand is various boy groups and artists such as britney spears, avril lavigne etc. Prior to testing these phones I've tried music from many genres. Looking forward to trying out the RS-1's. =)


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Originally Posted by mark_h /img/forum/go_quote.gif Again!!! They are most probably broken if they do not improve on almost every aspect of the sr80 and as you say the y are shrill and "muffled!" your amp will easily drive these phones, admittedly it isn't a HP4 but it will not make the GS1000 sound like you describe! Replace them under warranty while you still have time! alternatively you can leave them to burn in until your warranty runs out then replace them at cost?

Well, if reading the warranty note that came with the phones it says "Grado warranties that if your Grado Headphones prove to be defective within a period of one year from a verified date of purchase, Grado will provide without charge the parts and labor to remedy any such defect" - so it would seem I have a year to figure out whether they're broken or not.
As mentioned earlier I'll take them to a nearby dealer to compare them with another pair and hopefully test them on suitable equipment. I'm also a bit reluctant to sending them back for a few reasons - A: It would be rather futile for me to send them back to the place I bought them, and for them to pass them on to Grado claiming they're broken , and then it shows that they're not, but in fact that's simply the way they sound. Then I'd have to pay the shipping back and forth. Ok, they may test it at the dealer, but that's still a postage cost. B: I'm *cough* not quite sure how to send a parcel

, all post offices here have been removed since many years back, it just seems so troublesome.
But sure, absolutely - if they prove to be defect I will have them replaced.

 

[les_garten]

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Originally Posted by Death /img/forum/go_quote.gif I listen to a rather wide range of music styles. Lately I've been listening a lot to this radio station that only webcasts "chillout" music (this one for the record), and also choir music for some reason. Other periods have been dominated by rock, jazz, pop, trip-hop, classical, hiphop, game-music, pornfunk, music that is so terrible it becomes good (example) etc. What I can't stand is various boy groups and artists such as britney spears, avril lavigne etc. Prior to testing these phones I've tried music from many genres. Looking forward to trying out the RS-1's. =) Well, if reading the warranty note that came with the phones it says "Grado warranties that if your Grado Headphones prove to be defective within a period of one year from a verified date of purchase, Grado will provide without charge the parts and labor to remedy any such defect" - so it would seem I have a year to figure out whether they're broken or not. As mentioned earlier I'll take them to a nearby dealer to compare them with another pair and hopefully test them on suitable equipment. I'm also a bit reluctant to sending them back for a few reasons - A: It would be rather futile for me to send them back to the place I bought them, and for them to pass them on to Grado claiming they're broken , and then it shows that they're not, but in fact that's simply the way they sound. Then I'd have to pay the shipping back and forth. Ok, they may test it at the dealer, but that's still a postage cost. B: I'm *cough* not quite sure how to send a parcel , all post offices here have been removed since many years back, it just seems so troublesome. But sure, absolutely - if they prove to be defect I will have them replaced.

You guys don't have any Post offices? Never heard of that...

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[Skin]

its pretty clear you dont like the sound, broken or not. Simple solution, return it. Shop around or take the advice here and try an RS-1.

 

[vvanrij]

Haha thats the worst advise ever. So you are saying here that you could judge a headphone even if it is broken????

 

[les_garten]

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Originally Posted by Skin /img/forum/go_quote.gif its pretty clear you dont like the sound, broken or not. Simple solution, return it. Shop around or take the advice here and try an RS-1.

I disagree somewhat with your assessment. I have some non Grado like canz. If I spend some time with Denon D5000's or DX1000's or HD650's or whatever, and put on my Grado GS1000's I have to shift gears, and it is not immediate. When I first got them, I listened to them for a few minutes and put them away for about a month. Thought it was a huge mistake to buy them.

I went back to them and decided to see what they were about and give them a little time. I knew there had to be something for them to have the following that they do. I also was listening to them too loud I think at first. Also, I wouldn't say they are good with all music.

So when I finally went back to them, I kept them low and just did some work with them on my head and started to like them. They are great for discerning detail and 3 dimensionality of Music. IMHO. Because of the other Canz I have, I am not Super impressed with the base, as I would most likely not be impressed with any Grado's base.

I would say make sure they are working properly, and just put them on your head for a some time to see if they do anything you like. If not, they have to go.

They seem to like my DV 337SE a lot. SS stuff seems too bright and the sibilance on female voice on SS is so far excruciating. But I don't have any GREAT SS gear either.

I have not heard the RS-1's, most likely one of my next acquisitions, so i can't speak to that comparison.

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[Skin]

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Originally Posted by vvanrij /img/forum/go_quote.gif Haha thats the worst advise ever. So you are saying here that you could judge a headphone even if it is broken????

he's streaming music as a source, and has an amp that probably isnt the best match for the GS1000, and most importantly really dislikes the sound from the headphone. You're saying he should keep it?

Clearly the purchase was done a bit uninformed and if hes that dissapointed it should be returned immediatly. Especially since going through the motions of a warranty repair, if that is even the problem, sounds like a huge pain in the neck. Given his source he should return it regardless in my opinion. I'd suggest a Senn to mask the flaws in that source.

 

[boomy3555]

Many people mistakenly think that The GS1000 has to be good just because your old Grados sound good.
The overall signature is quite different from the little brothers and I suspect the new PS1000's will very different as well.
I had the GS1000's and did not really like them either. Luckily through the generosity of a Fellow head-Fi'er I was able to sell thme without loosing my shirt. Believe it or not they simply might not be for you. Many people have gone from the GS1k's to the RS-1's and are so much happier.

 

[les_garten]

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Originally Posted by Skin /img/forum/go_quote.gif he's streaming music as a source, and has an amp that probably isnt the best match for the GS1000, and most importantly really dislikes the sound from the headphone. You're saying he should keep it? Clearly the purchase was done a bit uninformed and if hes that dissapointed it should be returned immediatly. Especially since going through the motions of a warranty repair, if that is even the problem, sounds like a huge pain in the neck. Given his source he should return it regardless in my opinion. I'd suggest a Senn to mask the flaws in that source.

he listens to Grados though...

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[Skin]

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Originally Posted by les_garten /img/forum/go_quote.gif he listens to Grados though... .

if it must be Grado why not just stick with the SR80s then and buy a replacement.

 

[les_garten]

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Originally Posted by Skin /img/forum/go_quote.gif if it must be Grado why not just stick with the SR80s then and buy a replacement.

You're not making a lot of sense here.

This guys has a low end set of Grado's and spends $1000 on a new set of Grados? He likes em! Don't suggest he get Senn's, because that makes ZERO sense.

He needs to check em out, make sure they're working. If they sound like other GS1000's, he is not a GS1000 guy, except for the Break in requirements attributed to these canz? That could be a factor.

1) Check out the GS1000's for function
2) Make sure they are Burned in, do you like them?
3) Replace with RS-1

I would think that is how this will pan out.

or after 25 other planz, we can get to Plan Z, Replace with Senn 650's!

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[Skin]

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Originally Posted by les_garten /img/forum/go_quote.gif You're not making a lot of sense here. This guys has a low end set of Grado's and spends $1000 on a new set of Grados? He likes em! Don't suggest he get Senn's, because that makes ZERO sense. He needs to check em out, make sure they're working. If they sound like other GS1000's, he is not a GS1000 guy, except for the Break in requirements attributed to these canz? That could be a factor. 1) Check out the GS1000's for function 2) Make sure they are Burned in, do you like them? 3) Replace with RS-1 I would think that is how this will pan out. or after 25 other planz, we can get to Plan Z, Replace with Senn 650's! .

Are you not reading his posts? Let me help you. HE STREAMS MUSIC FROM THE INTERNET, THAT IS HIS SOURCE.

You dont want to use, let alone do you need, a $1000 headphone for Streaming music off the web. I dont give a damn if its functioning correctly or not.

I mean really, thats like someone asking for advice on a purchasing a reliable car for their 10 minute commute and you wander in and tell them they need nothing less than a $40,000 Mercedes.

And yes i enjoy people telling me i "make no sense" when im clearly the only one reading the OPs posts.

Lets recap

He streams music with a minimum compression of 128Kb MP3
He used an SR80 and really enjoyed it
He has a mid-level amp
He bought a GS1000 and thinks it sounds horrendous

Conclusion? Get defensive when someone suggests something more suited to his setup, and insist that he either needs to "get use to it" [which is BS] or have it "fixed". God forbid he simply return the $1000 headphone his setup cannot justify, nor does he enjoy.