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Oct 28, 2005 at 3:13 AM Post #16 of 39
Choosing headphones is even more of a crapshoot without the likes of Head-fi. A couple years ago, I asked for decent and cheap clipons, and was told my only choices (KSC50, KSC55, KSC35), and then got referred here. That was an 'aha' moment that hooked me (hearing KSC50 vs w.ear).. But, I'm not after an astounding system--I just want to be able to enjoy my music. I've found that KSC75 are really enough for 90% of it. Yeah, there's better, but I don't listen critically much, and recording and mastering is still more important than anything else, even with cheapie cans.

For me, Head-fi has helped me save some money, and where it hasn't done that, very well may be helping me save my hearing. My E3c and ER-20 are good examples of the latter. I didn't even know what IEMs were before I lurked here, and didn't know something like the ER-20 existed! Of course, with headphones that have mods, I probably will 'waste' some money here and there
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So, in my conclusion: it's all perspectives and goals. One thing to remember is that a plce like Head-fi has, and will attract, a lot of gadget freaks. To many people (probably most of this forum's active members), being able to mess with cool new toys is as much fun as actually hearing better quality sound. I must admit that is why I went for the Supermini-3 against the Supermicro-3, BTW. I couldn't justify $350 for the Supermacro, but not being able to tweak anything is just...not right.
 
Oct 28, 2005 at 3:23 AM Post #17 of 39
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Originally Posted by Kirosia
It IS true that some with the same listening prefences listen to similar phones...Everything is subjective, but there's always at least a bit of truth to certain stereotypes/consensuses.


I think this is the most helpful aspect of these forums. You generally read the same things about the same headphones. There are the detractors to all manufactureres (Senn camp VS Grado camp) but once you figure out your own preference, hopefully by auditioning some headphones before you buy, you're at least assured that you are going to get a quality piece of gear. It generally helps prevent folks that are new to the hobby from wasting their cash on inferior products. I had never heard of Grado or Sennheiser before coming here, and now I own 2 Grados, a Senn, and some nice Koss portables. Chances are, I would have blown $100-150 on a crappy Sony or Bose from Best Buy or Circuit City.

However, since I am rather new to this, I try to refrain from posting too many suggestions or in-depth reviews of my stuff so as not to mislead somebody into getting something they won't like. I just give a thumbs up or down to a suggestion if I have tried a particular item. Nothing worse, in my mind, than giving an uninformed opinion to somebody making an investment in high-end headphones or an amp.
 
Oct 28, 2005 at 3:41 AM Post #20 of 39
this is very easily resolved by going to some stores and listening. everyone perceives what they hear differently. really no two people are the same in the ears-brain department. thats why humans are all unique. i enjoy posting here and hearing what others have to say. but, you will never find me mail ordering at places that have restocking fees. sharing information is great. although the type of information shared here is of the very subjective type.
this is not like instructions to assemble a computer per-se. if the instructions are correct to build a computer and you follow them properly, everyone ends up with the same computer. not so with audio, building it or purchasing it.
money is not really a factor either. i love to watch everyone here talk each other into a more and more expensive grado. untill someone returns their rs1's. lol. just because something costs more does not mean any given person will prefer it's sonic character.
so if this guy is more than 12 years old i cannot see why he did not realise this notion before even coming here? maybe he is just disgruntled because he mortaged his home to buy something metioned here as being the best and did not like it? lol. nonetheless i still love this forum and find it a wealth of information.

none of this type of thing(forums like this) came to be untill the advent of the internet. breaking down world-wide boundries. this can be a powerfull tool or it can just serve to upset some folks. use your own judgement! once again go listen to them! hey i can show you a forum where everyone swears they need a $1500 vacuum to clean their carpets! to some people they can realise the benifits of said vacuum. likewise with the collecting of headphones.
not everyones cup of tea takes the same lumps of sugar. all in all just try to stick to only a few hobbies(forums) on the internet unless you are a retired billionaire!

that being said: fatko, px100's can be nearly as good as hd650's! read my post "px100 revisited" i won't compare them to grado's because senns are much different then grados alltogether. there again, one of the problems people that cannot think for themselves may run into here is the comparisen of apples to oranges! ie grado rs1 vs. senn hd650. not really a parallel comparisen if you ask me. both very nice both very different. however they are continously compared to death here! gofigure?


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Oct 28, 2005 at 3:46 AM Post #22 of 39
i bet this will be the longest thread ever on this board! probably exactly what he wanted. to use another term coined by internetism, he may just be a "troll". player hater. hahaha.
 
Oct 28, 2005 at 1:01 PM Post #24 of 39
I figure that it would cost about $1000 for me to go to the New York meet. Probably money well spent. Get to meet some of you folks. Try out a ton of gear. Might save me $2000.00 or more in mistakes. It's the journey that counts. Keeps me off the streets.
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Oct 28, 2005 at 1:51 PM Post #25 of 39
Only buy a headphone for its characteristics, positioning, soundstaging, frequency range, amplitude of the low/mid/high sections when flat.

EQ = Answer

Many think its not Audiophile or not accurate or whatever to not listen to the unadultered flat sound. Well you are wrong! We listen for fun, so why not make the sound fun to what you would like accented (bass, highs)? Hardware EQ owns my soul.
 
Oct 28, 2005 at 1:53 PM Post #26 of 39
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Originally Posted by jagorev
You've been a member for 8 days?
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Have you tried angling the SONY MDR-E10 buds outwards yet?


lol irl tbh
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Oct 28, 2005 at 2:15 PM Post #27 of 39
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Originally Posted by jtwn
EQ = Answer

Many think its not Audiophile or not accurate or whatever to not listen to the unadultered flat sound. Well you are wrong! We listen for fun, so why not make the sound fun to what you would like accented (bass, highs)? Hardware EQ owns my soul.


This is.

Aren't different tips eq modifiers?
Doesn't different cables transport the signal filtering some frequencies?
Aren't the sources diferenced by its frequency delivering?
Isn't each phone shape and construction an eq modifier?

Every sound difference is related to eq (among other issues, but eq too)

So, why not eq (hardware or software based) to modify the sound to accomodate it to yo personal feelings, to you own ears?

Then there is the fact that if your phone model can reach the frequencies you want. Ok. Westone UM2 can. I'm happy with them 'cause as a sound technician, I know how to eq.
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Yes, but... how about that ER4P fantastic analytical sound everybody is talking about?
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This is the head-fi syndrom. Sorry about your wallet.
 
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