GoldPlanar GL2000 Thread

[duranxv]

If you have a chance, put the stock pads back on.... and run them SE.

Fun..

I did. Still prefer the hybrids

 

[FullBright1]

I did. Still prefer the hybrids

Did you try the Hybrids @SE ?

 

[FYFL]

Are these pads similar in size to other headphone pads that you guys are aware of??? I wonder if there are pads that can fit these GL2Ks??? Planar size of GL2000 is not typical so finding other pads to play with might be challenging?

 

[Roderick]

And yet, the headphones sound nothing like your chart(s).
Go figure.

I can't comment on that. I've never heard gl2000. Those measurements are from headphones.com. According to Andrew it does sound as it measures. He called it percussion compression. Of course, again...individual hearing and preferences.

I bet there will be quite polarized reception on gl2000 as more people write their impressions. It seems like a headphone that combines traits from dark and bright tuning. So depending on the listener it can be best or worst of both worlds so to speak. Some will shrugh their shoulders, say "that was weird" and move a long.

ZEOS : claims the GL2000s sound better then any set of headphones he's ever heard

For me Zeos recommendations work in reversed way. I think he has bit peculiar taste. I don't watch a lot of his reviews so maybe he also enjoys "normal" headphones but he recommends alot of weird sounding stuff. I'm thinking stuff like Yamaha hph-mt5, Sendy Aiva, Sivga Phoenix, Goldplanar gl400, Harmonicdyne helios. After initial hype alot of stuff he has recommended is soon forgotten. Think about Sivga Phoenix, headphone he said is best in it's price range and best headphones of 2020. It did not take long for the hype to fade. Those turned out to be quite average headphones and now only four months later those are pretty much forgotten by everyone. I think buying headphones based on z-reviews is much like predicting weather with frogs. Maybe GL2000 is awesome, I hope it is. If I stumble on a used pair for good price I'll take it. But just because of Zeos's track record I'm willing to bet that later consensus will be that it's average at best and in 2022 not many people even remember it existed.

 

[ScubaDrunk]

I can't comment on that. I've never heard gl2000. Those measurements are from headphones.com. According to Andrew it does sound as it measures. He called it percussion compression. Of course, again...individual hearing and preferences.

I bet there will be quite polarized reception on gl2000 as more people write their impressions. It seems like a headphone that combines traits from dark and bright tuning. So depending on the listener it can be best or worst of both worlds so to speak. Some will shrugh their shoulders, say "that was weird" and move a long.


For me Zeos recommendations work in reversed way. I think he has bit peculiar taste. I don't watch a lot of his reviews so maybe he also enjoys "normal" headphones but he recommends a lot of weird sounding stuff. I'm thinking stuff like Yamaha hph-mt5, Sendy Aiva, Sivga Phoenix, Goldplanar gl400, Harmonicdyne helios. After initial hype alot of stuff he has recommended is soon forgotten. Think about Sivga Phoenix, headphone he said is best in it's price range and best headphones of 2020. It did not take long for the hype to fade. Those turned out to be quite average headphones and now only four months later those are pretty much forgotten by everyone. I think buying headphones based on z-reviews is much like predicting weather with frogs. Maybe GL2000 is awesome, I hope it is. If I stumble on a used pair for good price I'll take it. But just because of Zeos's track record I'm willing to bet that later consensus will be that it's average at best and in 2022 not many people even remember it existed.

I'm pretty sure most reviewers are in bed with their own pick of manufactures and receiving a percentage of the sales. At the same time I am sure they will not say something is good or great or is "Their End game" if they do not believe in the product.

But I am 100% sure that they will push something even harder if they think it is good because they have an incentive to do so. They will never admit to this as it puts the credibility of the review and the reviewer at risk.

My bet is Zeos has incentives from certain Chinese manufacturers and other reviewers have other incentives from other manufacturers. These incentives can come in different forms from different channels i.e. there are social media marketing companies/agents that will handle a number of different reviewers at the same time and will deal with all the communications and payments between the manufacturers and the reviewer (Man in the middle so to speak). So when a reviewer says they are not being paid by the audio company for this review they are telling the truth because they are actually being paid by the agent or social media marketing company.

My point is everyone should read and watch as many reviews from a broad spectrum of reviewers before making their own mind up about personal purchases at the same time as taking into account that your own personal music taste and listening experience will differ from someone else's.

 

[duranxv]

Did you try the Hybrids @SE ?

Yep

 

[PcChip]

so after playing with them for a while, these are not my preferred sound signature but I can still tell there's something special about them. I can hear an insane amount of detail with these

I'm starting to realize that these will be absolutely perfect for EQ'ing - they are like a blank canvas that can be EQ'd to your EXACT sound signature and they just EAT IT UP

For example, here's something I spent just a few minutes tweaking by ear (and will further refine over the next few hours) - but they now sound amazing to my ears

[edit: updated with latest]

 

[FullBright1]

I can't comment on that. I've never heard gl2000. Those measurements are from headphones.com. According to Andrew it does sound as it measures. He called it percussion compression. Of course, again...individual hearing and preferences.
I bet there will be quite polarized reception on gl2000 as more people write their impressions. It seems like a headphone that combines traits from dark and bright tuning. So depending on the listener it can be best or worst of both worlds so to speak. Some will shrugh their shoulders, say "that was weird" and move a long.
For me Zeos recommendations work in reversed way. I think he has bit peculiar taste. I don't watch a lot of his reviews so maybe he also enjoys "normal" headphones but he recommends alot of weird sounding stuff. I'm thinking stuff like Yamaha hph-mt5, Sendy Aiva, Sivga Phoenix, Goldplanar gl400, Harmonicdyne helios. After initial hype alot of stuff he has recommended is soon forgotten. Think about Sivga Phoenix, headphone he said is best in it's price range and best headphones of 2020. It did not take long for the hype to fade. Those turned out to be quite average headphones and now only four months later those are pretty much forgotten by everyone. I think buying headphones based on z-reviews is much like predicting weather with frogs. Maybe GL2000 is awesome, I hope it is. If I stumble on a used pair for good price I'll take it. But just because of Zeos's track record I'm willing to bet that later consensus will be that it's average at best and in 2022 not many people even remember it existed.

Is is ok if i totally disagree with Andrew, regarding the Chart stuff?
He's not my final authority, as i have ears that applied for that job and won the position.

Also, the GL2000S are not "dark". If you want dark : Get any Audeze.

And, regarding ZEOS....i stated that He and I are about 30/70 regarding my agreeing with his assessment of any set of Headphones..... So, I was only repeating what he said about this Gear., and i then said that i dont allow any Headphone to be considered the "best' sound., as this does not exist.
That includes Abyss, Hifiman, Beyer, Senn, ,and what else you got ???

What i can tell you about these, ive already stated.
They are not dark, they are not bright, in the sense of a Focal Clear or anything made by Audiotechnica,..... and their midrange is smooth and very detailed, and bass is extended and textured, while not impacting the mids.
They actually sound quite a bit like the HDZeus, yet, with more clarity, more upper Treble air, and more detail retrieval.

It'll be interesting to watch the next 20 pages of this Thread run, as this gear has at least 400 recent purchases, that will all be arriving, soon to review.

So, sit back and let the hater's hate and the lover's appreciate.

Same as always, no matter the Brand.

 

[duranxv]

so after playing with them for a while, these are not my preferred sound signature but I can still tell there's something special about them. I can hear an insane amount of detail with these

I'm starting to realize that these will be absolutely perfect for EQ'ing - they are like a blank canvas that can be EQ'd to your EXACT sound signature and they just EAT IT UP

For example, here's something I spent just a few minutes tweaking by ear (and will further refine over the next few hours) - but they now sound amazing to my ears

Yeah, I found that with EQ, they really do sound great. Without EQ'ing, I didn't really like it. I made them a bit more V-shaped to be more similar to my Fostex TH-900's. I have to admit, these headphones are impressive so far. The bass is very impressive, ESPECIALLY for an open-back planar.

Will need more time to burn them in and see how the sound keeps opening up.

 

[FYFL]

The only problem I have with graphs ,.... or those who test gear, is inconsistency. I could get into it a bit more but in the essence, some companies get a better shake than others. Some companies get “side bar” explanation for weird FR graph, others don’t get any benefit of a doubt. And yes, everyone has a bias. As to incentives received by reviewers..... sure there are perks that come with it but there’s also some integrity and reputation that reviewer has to sustain to remain relative.

 

[Roderick]

Is is ok if i totally disagree with Andrew, regarding the Chart stuff?

Sure, why not. But what exactly are you disagreeing on? Existence of 5khz peak? Recession on the 6khz-10khz region? Boost after 10khz? Or do you agree that those things are a real but you just disagree how it affects the sound?

 

[Mhog55]

so after playing with them for a while, these are not my preferred sound signature but I can still tell there's something special about them. I can hear an insane amount of detail with these

I'm starting to realize that these will be absolutely perfect for EQ'ing - they are like a blank canvas that can be EQ'd to your EXACT sound signature and they just EAT IT UP

For example, here's something I spent just a few minutes tweaking by ear (and will further refine over the next few hours) - but they now sound amazing to my ears

Looking at your EQ, you must have heard these as somewhat cold, dark, and splashy up top?

 

[PcChip]

Looking at your EQ, you must have heard these as somewhat cold, dark, and splashy up top?

I don't know, I'm really bad at describing headphones (warm/dark/cold/bright/lean/neutral/hot/splashy/airy, etc)

but I am very good at hearing a headphone and recognizing within 30 seconds what bands I want to tweak, and then tweaking them to suit my tastes

After tweaks, I am really loving this headphone for the price

if anyone with a pair of GL2000 Double Magnets running MusicBee wants to try out my settings, paste these into two files in the \Equalizer folder and give them both a shot:

GL2000_DoubleMagnets_PcChip_02.sde : https://pastebin.com/PneLgxQ7

GL2000_DoubleMagnets_PcChip_05.sde : https://pastebin.com/9D2tyuQp

 

[FullBright1]

Sure, why not. But what exactly are you disagreeing on? Existence of 5khz peak? Recession on the 6khz-10khz region? Boost after 10khz? Or do you agree that those things are a real but you just disagree how it affects the sound?

I'm just simply stating that Andrew and I don't hear the Gear the same way that his Chart defines the Headphone's sound.
Charts are inconsistent.
Ears are subjective.
So, that's a problem......everytime you try to make those match.

Given time........ this Thread will show everyone what they need to know, as there will be so many that come here and say...."well, here is what i hear"..

There will be a consensus, eventually.

ITs all good....

 

[tkddans]

How long after placing the order on Linsoul did you all receive shipping notifications? It’s been a couple of days for me and nothing yet.