Geek Pulse: Geek desktop DAC/AMP by Light Harmonics

Aug 10, 2015 at 1:37 AM Post #8,779 of 13,808
Just dropping by to inquire on behalf of a friend.

LHL sent out an email a couple of days ago stating that:
 
The Customer Happiness team at LH Labs knows how patient you have been waiting for your Geek Source Lite. We have been in talks with various production houses, and to make a long story short, we simply won’t be able to build your Geek Source Lite.  This is due to a combination of an inability to acquire the right parts, and our production house unwilling to re-tool for such a small quantity to be run for our backers.
Due to this unforeseen circumstance Larry has given us the green light to open all perks at a discount price and provide you a free move to the Source 2T model. We do know that many of you have also purchased other upgrades to your Geek Source Lite, and we would like to let you know that it is all being transferred to your new Source unit. The Source will be built in the 2 Terabyte, 4 terabyte or the 1 Terabyte Solid State Versions.


Has any other Geek Source backers received this yet?

I don't want to go too much into our sentiments on this, but what do you guys suggest be done about this? My friend has no interest in a SS Source, so obviously we're looking at cancelling the order altogether. The current stance by LHL is strictly no refunds, as seen in the GW32 incident in which people were basically forced to upgrade or be stuck in limbo.

Would it possible to open up a case with Paypal/IGG about pursuing the matter, requesting for cancellation/refund?

 
Aug 10, 2015 at 2:02 AM Post #8,780 of 13,808
Ask them for a refund. Some Wave 32 backers managed to get refunds, so I don't see why your friend wouldn't, too.
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 1:51 PM Post #8,782 of 13,808
I opened a ticket and was able to use my loot points just fine!
 
upgraded my 2G cable to 2m and bought a USB slacker/extender for my GO450.
 
Sweet!
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:04 PM Post #8,783 of 13,808
  All depends on which Pulse unit I guess. I am not sure about the Oppo DAC, but really, a lot of differences between the different models.
 
From experience, If you can get a Standard Geek Pulse at the original IGG campaign price, that would be a nice bargain. (I believe it was $299-399 or something). If you have to pay full MSRP, then you may be disappointed with what you get. If you want Balanced output, then the cheaper you can get the higher end models, the more happy you will end up. I have had the X, X Fi, and recently had my X Fi changed out for an Infinity. I would say between the X and X Fi, you might not notice a difference at first, but the more you burn them in, then more difference you may find. Overall, I wasnt satisfied with the X Fi, so I got the Infinity. I use the X at work, and for the price I got it, it's perfectly fine. The X Infinity has been great straight out the box, but I have not yet put more than 10 hours on it, so I cannot say how it burns in yet but I have heard from others it gets much better. 

In all, I think the MSRP's of these units is generous. If they lowered each price down about 10-15%, it would be much closer to the right bang/buck ratio to justify the MSRP. Otherwise, it's just a label meant to make backers feel better about the price they spent. I get they calculate the MSRP on lots of variables but I think the Bang for your buck for the campaigns (at least the early ones) make it hard to see such a huge jump nowadays.
 
EDIT: BTW, I forgot to mention the LPS. That thing can upgrade the Pulse a bit. If you get the Standard, I wouldn't suggest getting it as it doesnt make sense, but the X Fi and X Infinity definitely belong with an LPS.

 
 
Thanks Kenman345, I am still not sure what DAC to buy. What is the IGG campaign? Is this something like Mass Drop? Btw, I received an anonymous message that these DACs have QC issues and these are blowing up the cans. I don't think I can try this as my first DAC. I am looking to pair it with my tube amp, which is really very good. Budget is around 200 for my first DAC. I dropped Oppo either, since I will only use it as a DAC, I would rarely have seen a movie on it so yeah, it is also dropped. Please Help!
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM Post #8,784 of 13,808
  The Geek Pulse and Geek Pulse X are better than the Oppo BDP-105. I knew within 10 minutes of listening to my Geek Pulse (standard) that I was going to sell the BDP-105 and it was gone 2 weeks later. I now use a Geek Pulse X in my stereo and Pulse on my PC for headphones. 
 
The BDP-105 does many other things that are also valuable, so if you're willing to compromise on sound quality to gain a ton more useful features, then the Oppo BDP-105 should still be at the top of your list. When it comes to pure 2 channel DAC capability and headphone capability, there is no contest. Geek Pulse wins.

Greg, did you face any issue with Geek so far?
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:10 PM Post #8,785 of 13,808
Thanks Kenman345, I am still not sure what DAC to buy. What is the IGG campaign? Is this something like Mass Drop? Btw, I received an anonymous message that these DACs have QC issues and these are blowing up the cans. I don't think I can try this as my first DAC. I am looking to pair it with my tube amp, which is really very good. Budget is around 200 for my first DAC. I dropped Oppo either, since I will only use it as a DAC, I would rarely have seen a movie on it so yeah, it is also dropped. Please Help!

It's a shame one person who has been posting on the thread and on the LH Labs site about a bum unit spraying hate. A lot of the QC issues really are from the early production runs and they fixed that before most of those went out the door. The newer units are less and less prone to this and if you read the IGG updates or Larrys blog entries you will find that the numbers for faulty units is actually low it's just that the consumers of these units are all vocal because they're not just an everyday consumer that finds a random item on the Internet to purchase but have been anticipating their unit for many months or years in a lot of cases.

Please whatever you do just do your research, $200 for a DAC is not going to get you far for a LH Labs product anyways, but that does not mean they are not good values at the right price.

EDIT: eliwankenobi is correct actually, I forgot about that part. I am so used to unplugging things.
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:13 PM Post #8,786 of 13,808
Thanks Kenman345, I am still not sure what DAC to buy. What is the IGG campaign? Is this something like Mass Drop? Btw, I received an anonymous message that these DACs have QC issues and these are blowing up the cans. I don't think I can try this as my first DAC. I am looking to pair it with my tube amp, which is really very good. Budget is around 200 for my first DAC. I dropped Oppo either, since I will only use it as a DAC, I would rarely have seen a movie on it so yeah, it is also dropped. Please Help!


Yes, they on their instructions to not plug in your headphones until the unit is turned ON. Otherwise you may run the risk of damaging the headphones. This is because of a design choice where they don't use a buffer or something.... All that is true.

If your budget is around $200. I would consider a GeekOut! They right around that price. And the first generation which are still great sounding, can be had for less. The GeekOut IEM 100, is at around $180 and it would be perfect as DAC only or for use with sensitive headphones like IEMs.
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:20 PM Post #8,787 of 13,808
   
 
Thanks Kenman345, I am still not sure what DAC to buy. What is the IGG campaign? Is this something like Mass Drop? Btw, I received an anonymous message that these DACs have QC issues and these are blowing up the cans. I don't think I can try this as my first DAC. I am looking to pair it with my tube amp, which is really very good. Budget is around 200 for my first DAC. I dropped Oppo either, since I will only use it as a DAC, I would rarely have seen a movie on it so yeah, it is also dropped. Please Help!


If the message is truly anonymous and there's no data whatsoever except heresy to back up the claim, the person sending the messages is a POS. I an many others have had zero issues with their Pulses. If you can't verify the source and can't find anything than a couple of odd ball issues, then you'll be pretty safe using a Pulse if you choose to do so.
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:27 PM Post #8,788 of 13,808
I'd second the idea of a Geek Out for the less than $200 range, though some have had volume issues, it's a delicate baby. If you disconnect it slightly on changing headphones, it acts as if it is newly connected, and defaults to full volume, so you have to be careful with that. Otherwise, it is a great sounding unit (have the GO 1K and the GO Special Edition).
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:42 PM Post #8,789 of 13,808
With the new firmware update, the volume on the Geek out is not an issue, it is controlled at the source.  You can no longer change the volume from the DAC itself.
At least thats the case with my MAC. The volume buttons are now setting for the digital filters. 
 
Aug 10, 2015 at 7:43 PM Post #8,790 of 13,808
 


Thanks Kenman345, I am still not sure what DAC to buy. What is the IGG campaign? Is this something like Mass Drop? Btw, I received an anonymous message that these DACs have QC issues and these are blowing up the cans. I don't think I can try this as my first DAC. I am looking to pair it with my tube amp, which is really very good. Budget is around 200 for my first DAC. I dropped Oppo either, since I will only use it as a DAC, I would rarely have seen a movie on it so yeah, it is also dropped. Please Help!



If the message is truly anonymous and there's no data whatsoever except heresy to back up the claim, the person sending the messages is a POS. I an many others have had zero issues with their Pulses. If you can't verify the source and can't find anything than a couple of odd ball issues, then you'll be pretty safe using a Pulse if you choose to do so.


+1 to Zero issues with my Pulse Infinity. Great unit.
 

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