Received the pros in less than 24 hours and about 6 hours in listening. I usually listen se846 and dn2002 plus a lot of headphones.
Impressions:
1) ethereal sound, highs are really strong but never heard an hiss or sibilance. I remember a lot of of sibilance from my (sold) dt880.
2)power hungry, no way to listen from a normal smartphone like an s8+ while the v20 can drive pros perfectly. Slightly less volume needed than Aeon but really a little difference...lol
3)I though binding flares with hugo2 could be bad with both being strong in treble...God,exceptional binding....meaning treble from both are just strong but never over emphasized.
4) very good with ifi idsd bl but better with hugo2
5)bluetooth dongle is good but difference in dynamic is evident against all the 3 dacs (yes I consider v20 a great dac)
6)sound hasnt a big body, but is technically perfect.
7)I am very happy.... Think on selling 846...
8) fit is exceptionally good, 4 hours on and no fatigue, se846 after 1 hour hurts dn2002 after 20 minutes
That's finally really bad... Looking at the golds.... Please help stop me...
skypablo, all kidding aside from my previous post - I'm glad you like the FlaresPro and generally I think if you're happy with it, there's no need to upgrade to the FlaresGold.
However, this is Head-Fi, where some people don't stop at one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten... and so on... number of iems un the quest to pursue the world's best iems. Even the best iem.
Now, there certainly are plenty of iems I haven't heard, but I've heard all the main sound signatures that you'll hear about, and most forms of it, between single-driver balanced armature and dynamic driver iems, hybrid iems, even the rare moving armature drivers found in Grado and Ortofon iems. The only type I haven't yet heard are multi-ba driver iems that I'm curious about in how it handles the bass and overall "strength" of the sound, particularly if it resolves one of ba's biggest issues - being the lack of "emotionality" to music from what I've heard from the single armature driver iems I've heard.
Yet, of all these iems I've listened to music through, the FlaresGold is the best, followed by the Flare R2A and the Massdrop/HiFiMan RE00. The FlaresGold being more similar to the R2A than the FlaresPro. The way I describe FlaresPro now that I've heard the Gold and more of my memory of my time with the Pro comes to mind, the Pro is like its own class of V-Shape, not typical V-Shape that includes increased upper bass and lower treble, along with recessed mids/vocals, but rather increased subbass/lower bass with more neutral upper bass and lower treble, increased upper treble, and unlike traditional V-Shape - the FlaresPro does not have recessed mids/vocals.
The FlaresPro basically is an iem meant to bring people use to the V-Shape sound towards this much more natural tuning, without going all way, but also not doing even a "light" form of traditional V-Shape, like the Periodic Audio BE does. The FlaresGold however does go all the way. It presents a more natural, leaner subbass like the R2A, though more refined on the FlaresGold. I'm pretty sure the mids/vocals are about the same on all of them, at least between the R2A and the FlaresGold sound similar to me - I own them both, but no longer the FlaresPro that I did own for a short while before returning them to Flare Audio.
The big difference between the three - the R2A, Gold, and Pro, is the treble. The R2A recesses the treble and sounds much more intimate than the other two. I much prefer the Gold over the R2A for most of the vocal music I listen to, because I prefer larger space and 3d-like audio to an intimate sound environment. Although the non-energetic soundscape music I listen to are better on the R2A's intimate sounding in a way, depending on why exactly I'm listening to music for at the moment. If I'm needing to relax to go to sleep, the R2A might be better. Still, if I'm in the process of treating my chronic pain symptoms trying not to go to sleep from the side effects, I'll have the FlaresGold on.
The treble issue continues with my Gold vs Pro comparison. Most people here already know this, but to newer arrivals in this thread I really don't mind explaining this again. To note : The FlaresPro does not always play the harsh treble. It only happens during songs with particular instrumentals playing in focus, such as cymbals and tambourines.Also, its possible certain amp/dac sources may hide the harshness - I'm not sure which might, since there are so many available on the market.
I use the Meridian Explorer2, which is an excellent, very high-quality device I'm using as my primary source, which probably won't change until there is a wired portable amp/dac using one of the new 32-bit Cirrus Logic chipsets integrated. Currently, there is only the Nexum Aqua+ that does, but its wireless/bluetooth-only. I'm interested in the Cirrus Logic for its more neutral tuning history, whereas alot of portable amp/dac devices tend to be on the warmer side. It features a higher quality bitrate through its hardware basis than the ME2. Another thing, I don't listen to MQA files because no matter how improved it may be in contrast with lossy mp3, its still lossy. I only listen to lossless Flac or better, so long as "better", is lossless. Also, I'm not a fan of Bluetooth. I gave the Bluetooth feature a try using the FlaresGold, and was disappointed. I don't blame the Flare module though, but rather just Bluetooth.
To hear the treble harshness on the FlaresPro, keeping in consideration the source may prevent it, try listening to "Rivers of Belief" by Enigma using Tidal Flac. Later on in the song comes a section of tambourines that will sound very forward in contrast to the other instrumentals. That forwardness is not natural nor even normal for the song. I don't hear it using any other iems . It has a harsh metallic-like "edge" or "rawness" to it, resembling a ba driver-like sound to it. The effect really diminishes the clarity of the other vocals seemingly behind it, with very little separation.
I attribute this occurence to Flare Audio developing their "live sound", which utilizes tuning in the upper treble range. Too much of this is generally known to cause harshness and can actually happen anywhere in the treble range, but worse the higher the frequency is. Any company tuning anywhere in the treble range needs to proceed with caution. I can't be sure why Flare Audio left this pretty bad error in the FlaresPro, but I also know it doesn't affect every song.
The FlaresGold corrects this with a tuning I suspect decreases the upper treble just enough to remove the harshness and bring the cymbal and tambourine instrumentals more in line with the other areas in the music, while possibly increasing the lower treble for more details and whatever else Flare Audio may have done in creating a really amazing 3d-like sound that differs its treble in contrast to the FlaresPro and the R2A. Its very magical sounding that still does not distract from the wonderful forward mids/vocals that all in all work better with the more natural bass of the FlaresGold than the slight bit more thumpy nature of the FlaresPro, despite the FlaresPro certainly not being a "bassy" or "basshead" iem. Definitely not that at all.
So, deciding between the Pro and the Gold is a challenging decision to make. Clearly though if you're going to listen to any metal, epic orchestral trailer soundtrack, ambient ethereal, or energetic varieties of such 'soundscape'-like music, you're most likely better going for the Gold. However, pop music, country, R&B, rap, or acoustic music would be fine on the Pro, even though I personally believe the Gold is better in every way than the Pro, except perhaps R&B and rap music - those would benefit from the Pro having extra bass.
Also keep in mind that I'm only comparing between the Pro and the Gold from my hearing and basing certain differentials on the frequency response chart I have of the FlaresPro. However as of the current moment, I do not have measurements for the FlaresGold - although I'd really like to have them. Flare Audio told me they'd get back to me about them after they upgrade some of their equipment needed for more accurate measurements. I sure hope they do, and whenever I get them, for certain I'll share them here in this lovely thread.