[FiiO UTWS5] True Wireless Bluetooth Earhooks as Usual,Coupled with Independent AK4332 DAC
Jan 16, 2023 at 10:54 AM Post #1,756 of 2,559
Codecs are software, you dont actually need anything special for LDAC, just a dongle with EDR support(which is practically any available on the market) so it has enough bandwidth for high bitrate codecs.
But not with Qualcomm's TWM. Why? Because buds need to synchronize with each other and this takes away some bandwidth. You can look into aptX Lossless: 1 Mbps, and only QHS-enabled devices support it.
Not including certain codec with a device most probably has to do with licensing.
Well, the actual reason why LDAC is coming to QCC514x only now is that Sony couldn't properly implement it. They still can't, but it doesn't matter anymore.
Been using CSR8510 BT4.0 dongle($2-3) on Linux for more than 2 years now, and you get support for practically every codec.
Yes, I actually used some random Bluetooth adapter from old laptop which I soldered USB cable to and it worked fine. But 990 kbps mode is unstable with TWM even on much better 855 phone. 909 kbps (so 44.1/88.2 kHz) works a bit better.
And a Windows 10/11 solution got introduced few months ago, its called "Alternative a2dp driver" and you get LDAC support with it.
It's only beta and probably won't be cheap. It's certainly cool, but still requires QHS-enabled Bluetooth card for TWM.
 
Jan 17, 2023 at 2:26 AM Post #1,757 of 2,559
I wholeheartedly agree!

@FiiO , @FiiO Willson , when can we expect something similar/equivalent for the UTWS5?
Hi
Because we are approaching the Chinese New Year and the holidays will start soon, we will not push the new firmware until around February 5th

But you can download this zip package and upgrade yourselves. :beerchug:
 

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Jan 17, 2023 at 2:35 AM Post #1,758 of 2,559
There is no LDAC on FW5 yet. However, some progress was made very recently (on Friday and Saturday), so it might come soon to FW5. No idea when UTWS5 will follow.
Anyway, unless you have very recent Qualcomm smartphone, you're not getting stable 990 kbps.
Agree, LDAC is not on FW5 yet and for getting 990 kbps you need a good transmitter.. But this is all doable, just wanted to know if someone had heard anything but takes this as no.
Thank you.
Yes, our engineers have now solved the problem of LDAC's left and right ears signal delay.

However, it is only implemented on the DEMO board, they are still trying to figure out how to transfer this to the FW5 and UTWS5, which I think will take some time

I'm very sorry to keep you guys waiting. :beerchug:
 
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Jan 17, 2023 at 3:00 AM Post #1,759 of 2,559
Yes, our engineers have now solved the problem of LDAC's left and right ears signal delay.

However, it is only implemented on the DEMO board, they are still trying to figure out how to transfer this to the FW5 and UTWS5, which I think will take some time

I'm very sorry to keep you guys waiting. :beerchug:
Great news. Will definitely consider an in production product with this.
 
Jan 17, 2023 at 5:37 AM Post #1,761 of 2,559
Hi
Because we are approaching the Chinese New Year and the holidays will start soon, we will not push the new firmware until around February 5th

But you can download this zip package and upgrade yourselves. :beerchug:
Thank you! :)

I have successfully updated one of my UTWS5 to 1.5 Firmware, also done a Factory Reset, it works fine, but I do not see any changes, I do not see anything new in the FiiO Control App. Is this happening because the App needs an update, as well? If so, will this update come around February 5?
 
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Jan 17, 2023 at 5:38 AM Post #1,762 of 2,559
Yes, our engineers have now solved the problem of LDAC's left and right ears signal delay.

However, it is only implemented on the DEMO board, they are still trying to figure out how to transfer this to the FW5 and UTWS5, which I think will take some time

I'm very sorry to keep you guys waiting. :beerchug:

That is awesome news, thank you very much! Personally, I sincerely appreciate it when you update us like this, just to know that something is moving.

Happy Chinese New Year, @FiiO , @FiiO Willson :)
 
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Jan 17, 2023 at 5:40 AM Post #1,763 of 2,559
Jan 17, 2023 at 9:31 AM Post #1,764 of 2,559
Thank you! :)

I have successfully updated one of my UTWS5 to 1.5 Firmware, also done a Factory Reset, it works fine, but I do not see any changes, I do not see anything new in the FiiO Control App. Is this happening because the App needs an update, as well? If so, will this update come around February 5?
I also do not notice any difference in my FiiO Control app regarding PEQ. Everything is the same as before. I am on firmware 1.42 and the latest iOS version that was pushed yesterday.

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Jan 17, 2023 at 10:30 AM Post #1,765 of 2,559
I also do not notice any difference in my FiiO Control app regarding PEQ. Everything is the same as before. I am on firmware 1.42 and the latest iOS version that was pushed yesterday.

@FiiO @FiiO Willson
Perhaps we cannot see the changes because the FiiO Control App requires an update, as well, which is not available right now, most probably. I installed the Firmware locally, only because @FiiO Willson provided the .BIN file. But I do not understand the point, since nothing has changed. Anyways, I do not mind :)

By the way, it is easy to return back to the previous Firmware 1.42, just check for updates again, it will find it and install it back again.
 
Jan 17, 2023 at 3:42 PM Post #1,767 of 2,559
Perhaps we cannot see the changes because the FiiO Control App requires an update, as well, which is not available right now, most probably. I installed the Firmware locally, only because @FiiO Willson provided the .BIN file. But I do not understand the point, since nothing has changed. Anyways, I do not mind :)

By the way, it is easy to return back to the previous Firmware 1.42, just check for updates again, it will find it and install it back again.
Weird…the release notes on the latest FiiO control app indicate that PEQ was available specifically for UTW5. I was excited about this update but alas NOTHING in the control app has changed.

Hope they fix it after the new year.

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Jan 17, 2023 at 4:50 PM Post #1,768 of 2,559
Weird…the release notes on the latest FiiO control app indicate that PEQ was available specifically for UTW5. I was excited about this update but alas NOTHING in the control app has changed.

Hope they fix it after the new year.

@FiiO
@FiiO Willson
I have it after I’ve updated my IOS FiiO control today: 3EC3448A-FED9-4B64-BDB2-A881F4BBDD05.pngEBBE78EE-76C3-48B6-BD52-34040CC64D20.png8467B78A-A8A3-4536-8FF4-D538BD50FE11.png
 

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Jan 17, 2023 at 6:01 PM Post #1,769 of 2,559
I have it after I’ve updated my IOS FiiO control today:
Hi, pretty interesting!

Which version of the FiiO Control App do you have? On my Xiaomi Android phone, running Android 12, MIUI version 13.0.8, I cannot see anything like in your screenshots. I have checked for App updates but the latest I see on the Play Store is the version I already have, so version 3.6
 
Jan 17, 2023 at 6:07 PM Post #1,770 of 2,559
I have it after I’ve updated my IOS FiiO control today:
Didn’t know I needed to upgrade to firmware 1.5 to see it. Everything works as it should after updating manually on my iPhone. Thanks!

The long awaited upgrade is very good and it elevates the UTWS5 to everything I had hoped it to be when I first bought it in early 2022. While the PEQ is not as granular as the Q5K, it does enough to enhance my TWS experience.

Thank you @FiiO!
 
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