[FiiO Q5s Type C ‖ Q5s] Bluetooth DSD-capable Amplifier,AK4493x2,768k/32bit
Jun 18, 2020 at 12:28 PM Post #2,686 of 3,226
Thru usb it should change from alone. It should show another color when playing master quality on tidal

It does for me, Blue for Hifi and Yellow for Master. Used in Exclusive Mode anyhow, I’ve not tried it any other way. Amazon Music HD would only show yellow on the Q5s regardless of track quality or it’s own Exclusive Mode setting leading me to believe it was always being sampled before it reached the dac.
 
Jun 18, 2020 at 6:24 PM Post #2,687 of 3,226
How do I use the highest possible codecs via USB from my laptop? Or does it just default to the highest? It shows a blue light, and it sounds quite good.
I'm trying to get the best sound streaming Tidal through my laptop.

This might be a long shot and you may already be aware of all of this but have you been in the settings and made sure that in the Streaming section the option to change from System Controlled to the Fiio has been made under the Sound Output section? It's just that I have been listening to mine this evening and only just realised that it has reverted back to System Controlled for some reason which meant that the Master tracks would still show a blue light on the Fiio as oppose to a yellow light. Obviously the Use Exclusive Mode tab will need to be checked as well under the More Settings pop up.
 
Jun 18, 2020 at 9:10 PM Post #2,688 of 3,226
This might be a long shot and you may already be aware of all of this but have you been in the settings and made sure that in the Streaming section the option to change from System Controlled to the Fiio has been made under the Sound Output section? It's just that I have been listening to mine this evening and only just realised that it has reverted back to System Controlled for some reason which meant that the Master tracks would still show a blue light on the Fiio as oppose to a yellow light. Obviously the Use Exclusive Mode tab will need to be checked as well under the More Settings pop up.
I'm using Tidal and can't quite find the setting to toggle that your mentioning.
 
Jun 19, 2020 at 3:35 AM Post #2,689 of 3,226
I'm using Tidal and can't quite find the setting to toggle that your mentioning.

Settings;

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Streaming;

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Sound Output;

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More Settings;

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Exclusive Mode;

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Hope the above sorts it for you. The third picture down is where it reverted back to System Controlled (it doesn’t show as an option at the moment though) and presumably at this point the audio was passing through the laptop’s sound card rather than being passed straight to the Fiio to process it so would only show a blue light regardless of the tracks quality.
 
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Jun 20, 2020 at 10:13 AM Post #2,690 of 3,226
Thats not true am3d delivers more power thru balanced then the am5

Am3d 60mw into 300 ohm

Am5 55mw into 300 ohm
Depends on which impedance you're referencing. At 16 ohms:

AM5: 800 mW
AM3D: 530 mW

Obviously, this impedance is in IEM territory, and I don't know of many IEMs that would need this much juice. Maybe planar IEMs like the Audeze iSine 10/20 or LCD i3/i4?
 
Jun 24, 2020 at 9:38 AM Post #2,691 of 3,226
I found one problem with playing DSD from foobar in Windows 10 and Fiio driver v 4.47.0 (latest one). I have BTR5 (max DSD256) and Q5s (max DSD512).
Problem appears on 2 different windows systems and both Fiio devices.
And it is - highest rate DSD files cannot be played on both devices (DSD256/DSD512) in Windows. The same files can be played in Android/UAPP. So I think it is some problem with Fiio USB driver.
DSD64-128 for BTR5 and DSD64-256 for Q5s is playing well.

Is anybody else who has the same problem?
@FiiO will you please help me with this problem?
 
Jun 24, 2020 at 12:26 PM Post #2,692 of 3,226
It does it with other cables as well. I just tried it. Don't have another android device to test. Disable usb audio routing is unchecked in dev options

I finally found out what was causing the phone interference noise on the Q5s after getting fed up and trying everything i could think of. I even went and put ferrite chokes on everything to try and nullify interference.

Its the AM3D THX amp module. When i connect the AM3E back up to the Q5s the noise is no longer there. I have tried the module on a different Q5s just to make sure that it was the amp module and not the Q5s itself.

Fiio is there anything that can be done for this noise now that i know its the module? I could just use the AM3E but i prefer the sound signature of the AM3D.

Thank you (And anyone else on this forum who might have an idea of what to do)
 
Jun 24, 2020 at 12:57 PM Post #2,693 of 3,226
Currently have a btr5 as my portable setup (rme adi-2 at home)

I rotate between Solaris 2020 and u12t - anyone have experience with these iem on q5s? How well does the bass boost perform?

Overall sound and volume is great on the btr5 but a bit lacking on bass impact

Or would I be better off with a ifi xcan?
 
Jun 24, 2020 at 1:39 PM Post #2,694 of 3,226
Currently have a btr5 as my portable setup (rme adi-2 at home)

I rotate between Solaris 2020 and u12t - anyone have experience with these iem on q5s? How well does the bass boost perform?

Overall sound and volume is great on the btr5 but a bit lacking on bass impact

Or would I be better off with a ifi xcan?
The q5s with am3d modul delivers a really nice bass impact and body

Better then my rme on some gear and it has a bass boost knob

The am3e has less bass
 
Jun 26, 2020 at 4:55 AM Post #2,695 of 3,226
just an update for everyone

returned my btr5 and got a q5s today
i tested it vs the xcan at the shop today with my solaris 2020

both xcan and q5s does have a noticeable hiss - more on the xcan than q5s (btr5 was dead silent)

bass function on both xcan and q5s are great - can't say for certain one gives more 'impact' than the other
ultimately i chose the q5s due to less 'hiss' than the xcan and since the bass boost was almost identical so the addition of ldac is worth it more for me on the q5s

can't say for certain if the extra cost from btr5 to q5s is worth it per say due to hiss - the extra bass is great (while not a whole lot vs on my rme adi-2 but thats expected and shouldn't really be compared)

if i had more time testing the q5s / xcan - would i have exchanged the btr5? probably not.

will test some more when i receive my u12t back from my friend who i lent it to and see if more 'burn in' would change anything but highly doubt it
 
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Jun 29, 2020 at 11:20 PM Post #2,698 of 3,226
Can anyone tell me the q-factor or bandwidth used in Q5s built in EQ? It is kinda hard to use the EQ when I couldn’t figure out how wide the range of each slider affecting the frequency.
Dear user,

You may read the number in the red mark to see if it helps:

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Best regards
 
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Jun 30, 2020 at 12:03 AM Post #2,699 of 3,226
Dear user,

You may read the number in the red mark to see if it helps:

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Best regards

Isn’t that gain? The number to determine how loud the EQ will affect each frequency. What I mean is the q factor; the number that decide how wide is the range of affected frequency. For instance, if I lift the 10000Hz slider at 1.3dB will it also give noticeable change at 5000Hz and 15000Hz?

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Jun 30, 2020 at 4:04 AM Post #2,700 of 3,226
I found one problem with playing DSD from foobar in Windows 10 and Fiio driver v 4.47.0 (latest one). I have BTR5 (max DSD256) and Q5s (max DSD512).
Problem appears on 2 different windows systems and both Fiio devices.
And it is - highest rate DSD files cannot be played on both devices (DSD256/DSD512) in Windows. The same files can be played in Android/UAPP. So I think it is some problem with Fiio USB driver.
DSD64-128 for BTR5 and DSD64-256 for Q5s is playing well.

Is anybody else who has the same problem?
@FiiO will you please help me with this problem?
I found out what is the reason. And learned some more things as a result.
Foobar SACD plugin does not send Navive DSD anymore from version 0.9.7. This was a big surprise and disapointment for me. Rolling back to several years old version is not for me because author already did some big change in SACD tagging and I would have to retag all my isos.
Foobar outputs only DSD over PCM now and device max PCM sample rate is not high enough for DSD512. Max DoP rate depends logically on PCM max rate. That's clear.
Problem is in Foobar SACD plugin and some other player (don't remember which one) only, other players may output Native DSD via ASIO.
 

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