Rescue911
New Head-Fier
Hmm, that's interesting.
What cable will it be?
Can I have a photo?
Thank you in advance.
[FiiO M11 Plus LTD/M11 Plus] THXAAA-78,Android 10, 2.5/3.5/4.4 Powerful Output/4.4 LO output, Dual AK4497/ES9068AS DAC chips, 4GB RAM,64G Flash
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What cable will it be?
Can I have a photo?
Thank you in advance.
From a 4.4mm balanced line out you can use 4.4mm to 4.4mm or a 4.4mm to 2 x 3 pin XLR depending in the input on the amplifier.
If the source device is grounded out of the 4.4mm line out, as it should be and the M11 Plus is, you can also use the positive from each channel and the ground with the negatives left floating. With such a wiring set up you can go 4.4mm to 2 x RCA into a single ended amplifier.
Generally that is only an external wiring set up that mimics the internal set up of the 3.5mm line out that many balanced DAPs would have anyway so is generally pointless. If, however, you have a device with only a 4.4mm line out as is the case with an iFi Diablo then this is a handy cable to have.
The cable really needs to be custom because there are plenty of 4.4mm to 2 x RCA cables on the likes of Ali Express that seem to be wired differently to what is required in this application.
Dear friend,
The "LO" signal comes directly from the DAC. The amp section of the M11 Plus is not working at that time.
Best regards
#FIIO Thank you for your answer.
As the predecessor wrote - I plan to use the FIIO M11 Plus Ltd balanced output LineOutput 4.4mm to 4.4mm with a short good interconnect cable.
Does anyone have good experience and what kind of portable amplifiers should it be used with?
It's not so much a portable "sandwich" set, but I want to cut off the interference power supply and be able to take such a set to another place.
I guess I will have to enter the prices of FIIO M15s for such a set, but do not exceed the price of FIIO M17.
As the predecessor wrote - I plan to use the FIIO M11 Plus Ltd balanced output LineOutput 4.4mm to 4.4mm with a short good interconnect cable.
Does anyone have good experience and what kind of portable amplifiers should it be used with?
It's not so much a portable "sandwich" set, but I want to cut off the interference power supply and be able to take such a set to another place.
I guess I will have to enter the prices of FIIO M15s for such a set, but do not exceed the price of FIIO M17.
Rescue911
New Head-Fier
Thanks for your reply.
I keep it in mind.
I asked for a photo / link (if available) for a personal purchase.
It is precisely the READY solution that interests me, which will give a 100% positive result in the case of 4.4 - XLR x 2
Thanks.
Examples:
-Cable 4.4mm to 2x XLR
https://ifi-audio.com/products/4-4mm-to-xlr-cable/
-Cable 4.4mm to 4.4mm
https://ifi-audio.com/products/4-4mm-to-4-4mm-cable/
-Cable 4.4mm to 2x XLR
https://ifi-audio.com/products/4-4mm-to-xlr-cable/
-Cable 4.4mm to 4.4mm
https://ifi-audio.com/products/4-4mm-to-4-4mm-cable/
Guys, do you think the M15s will be a significant upgrade compared to the M11 plus? In terms of sound.
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What's next when you already have a 2-3 year old DAP, Android is getting old, you lack power because you change headphones or plan to change them, and in general you have already listened to the flagship DAPs at shows/tests how great they sound, but their high prices make you have to stop.
How to improve the sound quality of such a DAP?
So I bought Astell & Kern PA10 + IFI interconnect 4.4 to 4.4
I wanted to get a better sound with DAP FIIO M11 Plus Ltd - 2x AKM4497EQ.
I considered several options: sell the current FIIO (with a price loss) and buy another DAP, only what FIIO? - the only model with a step forward is the new FIIO 15s but it's still a THX amplifier, still Android 10 in 2023 I listened to it but apart from the greater power its signature (in my opinion) it is very similar to 11 Plus Ltd. it's more a cosmetics of the sound than a revolution, the other is .. Monster M17, of course, is distinguished by a better sound, a much higher price and cosmic power, still Adroid 10. An alternative is the purchase of DAP A&K but what kind - SP3000 ufffff .... the price is actually a refined DAP, the purchase of SE300 is it ... a brilliant combo with a class-A amplifier but still the price is high as a novelty. I decided to go a different way, and the current DAP and use it only as a balanced source for the analog balanced, portable (I will not carry it, but rather move it, but I am allergic to interference from the power supply from the mains) Astell&Kern PA10 class-A amplifier is a curiosity on the market the more so that the price is more affordable than, for example, Cayin C9, WA8 ....
I often read very poetic terms during tests and reviews. I will not use it here.
I was the first to connect my Focal Elegia, I always had the impression when listening to the FIIO M11 Plus Ltd that it lacked ... power, dynamics, spaciousness??
On the Focal, the lows and mid-bass were a problem and constant combinations with the Dekoni full leather pads made up for it.
I connected them through a balanced cable and ..... the sound just knocked me into the chair, the stage ... I am on the stage or right next to it and it is overwhelming, the musicians are almost tangible
First song - In the swing tracks (Kelly Smith - On The Sunny Side Of The Street) a series of sounds come out of the brass instruments with such intensity and dynamics as when I played them myself in the band WOOOW 30 years ago.
If you think the musicians, for example, jazz, will disperse too much on the stage, you can summon them and discipline them with the CrossFeed switch (that was my impression) and in fact the system mixes the channels as when listening to stationary loudspeakers.
Is there anything missing from Focal Elegia now - absolutely not! no equalizers needed all the low and sub low tones have magically found each other.
I don't know how A&K calculates Balanced 6.2Vrms power?? and probably no one knows for sure - for one device and the same headphones with 6.2Vrms (Kann Max) or 15 Vrms (CA1000) is still not enough.
Here in PA10 on the balanced output is 6.2Vrms Focal Elegia is only 35 Ohm 1/3 of the knob on Gain-L is a firecracker, it's almost scary to turn the knob.
I listened to dozens of songs of different genres (because I also listen to different music) and I am currently charging it with the charger.
I will try to write something later on other in-ear headphones.
I do not want to convince anyone and praise A&K PA10.
Of course, there are better stationary and portable devices, and even cheaper ones that give even more fun than my modest set.
But if you have a few years old DAP with LineOut output, take it with you, because it is a lightweight and portable device and test it in the salon or shop, by personally connecting it to the Astell & Kern PA10. Simple TRY.
Maybe your DAP is not that old and you don't need to replace it with a new one, it just lacks a friend in the form of a better amplifier than the one currently inside your DAP.
The DAP (including a better DAC) will be available later and can be changed to another one anyway, but how many of them have a balanced class-A amplifier in such a small and clever version, the A&K PA10 will stay with me for longer.
How to improve the sound quality of such a DAP?
So I bought Astell & Kern PA10 + IFI interconnect 4.4 to 4.4
I wanted to get a better sound with DAP FIIO M11 Plus Ltd - 2x AKM4497EQ.
I considered several options: sell the current FIIO (with a price loss) and buy another DAP, only what FIIO? - the only model with a step forward is the new FIIO 15s but it's still a THX amplifier, still Android 10 in 2023 I listened to it but apart from the greater power its signature (in my opinion) it is very similar to 11 Plus Ltd. it's more a cosmetics of the sound than a revolution, the other is .. Monster M17, of course, is distinguished by a better sound, a much higher price and cosmic power, still Adroid 10. An alternative is the purchase of DAP A&K but what kind - SP3000 ufffff .... the price is actually a refined DAP, the purchase of SE300 is it ... a brilliant combo with a class-A amplifier but still the price is high as a novelty. I decided to go a different way, and the current DAP and use it only as a balanced source for the analog balanced, portable (I will not carry it, but rather move it, but I am allergic to interference from the power supply from the mains) Astell&Kern PA10 class-A amplifier is a curiosity on the market the more so that the price is more affordable than, for example, Cayin C9, WA8 ....
I often read very poetic terms during tests and reviews. I will not use it here.
I was the first to connect my Focal Elegia, I always had the impression when listening to the FIIO M11 Plus Ltd that it lacked ... power, dynamics, spaciousness??
On the Focal, the lows and mid-bass were a problem and constant combinations with the Dekoni full leather pads made up for it.
I connected them through a balanced cable and ..... the sound just knocked me into the chair, the stage ... I am on the stage or right next to it and it is overwhelming, the musicians are almost tangible
First song - In the swing tracks (Kelly Smith - On The Sunny Side Of The Street) a series of sounds come out of the brass instruments with such intensity and dynamics as when I played them myself in the band WOOOW 30 years ago.
If you think the musicians, for example, jazz, will disperse too much on the stage, you can summon them and discipline them with the CrossFeed switch (that was my impression) and in fact the system mixes the channels as when listening to stationary loudspeakers.
Is there anything missing from Focal Elegia now - absolutely not! no equalizers needed all the low and sub low tones have magically found each other.
I don't know how A&K calculates Balanced 6.2Vrms power?? and probably no one knows for sure - for one device and the same headphones with 6.2Vrms (Kann Max) or 15 Vrms (CA1000) is still not enough.
Here in PA10 on the balanced output is 6.2Vrms Focal Elegia is only 35 Ohm 1/3 of the knob on Gain-L is a firecracker, it's almost scary to turn the knob.
I listened to dozens of songs of different genres (because I also listen to different music) and I am currently charging it with the charger.
I will try to write something later on other in-ear headphones.
I do not want to convince anyone and praise A&K PA10.
Of course, there are better stationary and portable devices, and even cheaper ones that give even more fun than my modest set.
But if you have a few years old DAP with LineOut output, take it with you, because it is a lightweight and portable device and test it in the salon or shop, by personally connecting it to the Astell & Kern PA10. Simple TRY.
Maybe your DAP is not that old and you don't need to replace it with a new one, it just lacks a friend in the form of a better amplifier than the one currently inside your DAP.
The DAP (including a better DAC) will be available later and can be changed to another one anyway, but how many of them have a balanced class-A amplifier in such a small and clever version, the A&K PA10 will stay with me for longer.
buckster666
100+ Head-Fier
My Fiio app just updated to version 3.1.8
1. Added a new function of adding local music tabs, and added tabs of music format,year and sampling rate
2. Added desktop lyrics and status bar lyrics
3. Added a new function of playback highlight on the multimedia playlist, and returning to the memorized position of the previous folder
4. Added a new function of exporting and importing M3U
5. Optimized desktop widgets
https://forum.fiio.com/note/showNoteContent.do?id=202105071626425774349&tid=17
1. Added a new function of adding local music tabs, and added tabs of music format,year and sampling rate
2. Added desktop lyrics and status bar lyrics
3. Added a new function of playback highlight on the multimedia playlist, and returning to the memorized position of the previous folder
4. Added a new function of exporting and importing M3U
5. Optimized desktop widgets
https://forum.fiio.com/note/showNoteContent.do?id=202105071626425774349&tid=17
Rescue911
New Head-Fier
Mine too.
Teach, teach ME to sort songs by albums.
I can't find this feature.
I need it to be like in USB Audio Player PRO
In the folder, everything should be in order: the album and continuous numbering!
Compare order in one player and chaos in another.
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@FiiO
Can we please get the Composer tag put into the Android FiiO music app (I use M11 LTD)? This has been requested before and should not be difficult to add.
Many thanks!
Can we please get the Composer tag put into the Android FiiO music app (I use M11 LTD)? This has been requested before and should not be difficult to add.
Many thanks!
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Hello @FiiO
Can you please add the Composer tag to the FiiO app (I use the Android version for my FiiO M11 Plus LTD Digital Audio Player. This really would be a useful tag to add to the player so one can sort by Composer...I think I had mentioned this before. Cheers to you!
Can you please add the Composer tag to the FiiO app (I use the Android version for my FiiO M11 Plus LTD Digital Audio Player. This really would be a useful tag to add to the player so one can sort by Composer...I think I had mentioned this before. Cheers to you!
Dear friend,
We have reported to the engineer a few times as well. Hope they could consider to add it in later update.
Best regards
Rescue911
New Head-Fier
I know!
It was the cry of the soul.
This limitation is not good for your software player.
USB Audio Player PRO Forever!
Why others can and you can't?
The question is rhetorical, you can not answer, and so it is clear ...
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