[FiiO BTR15/BTR5 2021/BTR5]Bluetooth DAC and Headphone Amplifier Discussion & Impressions Thread
Jan 5, 2023 at 7:20 PM Post #3,106 of 3,639
Dear friend,

Sorry double click the multifunctional button will enable the assist in the mobile phone instead.
I'm surprised the BTR3K can skip track with the multifunction button, but the BTR5 forces you to hold or double click the volume buttons which is too bad since sometimes I wanna tap the volume fast and that results in a skip.
 
Jan 6, 2023 at 11:09 AM Post #3,107 of 3,639
So is there a sale anywhere on this? Over the last few days, I’ve read all 208 pages! It’s currently retailing for $105, but was wondering if it can be got for cheaper anywhere else? I loved my LG V10 but that died in a bootloop and was buried 7 years ago. When I saw that this used a similar DAC from the same company, it’s been in my wishlist.
Anyone willing to part with theirs for a reduced amount is also welcome to DM me.
I really need this somehow.
 
Jan 6, 2023 at 1:13 PM Post #3,108 of 3,639
So is there a sale anywhere on this? Over the last few days, I’ve read all 208 pages! It’s currently retailing for $105, but was wondering if it can be got for cheaper anywhere else? I loved my LG V10 but that died in a bootloop and was buried 7 years ago. When I saw that this used a similar DAC from the same company, it’s been in my wishlist.
Anyone willing to part with theirs for a reduced amount is also welcome to DM me.
I really need this somehow.
To be honest, I can’t hear a difference between the BTR5 and the Apple lightning dongle. So there’s that. I tried switching back and forth trying as hard as I could to hear a difference in clarity or soundstage or separation and I just couldn’t make out any difference.

It’s still a good device though and it frees my phone up for charging or just not having to be tethered to it.
 
Jan 9, 2023 at 1:45 AM Post #3,110 of 3,639
I have a question: is the SPL calculator based on the balanced output because there’s no way I’m listening at 90+db
Dear friend,

It is a calculated value according to the load and sensitivity you entered.

Generally, the headphone could be driven if the SPL is higher than 86dB.

Best regards
 
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Jan 10, 2023 at 8:45 PM Post #3,112 of 3,639
So I guess the BTR3K can drive the HD 600 balanced at 75% volume?
Dear friend,

Due to individual preferences, you could read the professional reviews and comparisons, as well as try out by yourself. The HD600 is a high impedance headphone, so I am afraid that the BTR3K could not drive it well.

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Jan 10, 2023 at 11:21 PM Post #3,113 of 3,639
Dear friend,

Due to individual preferences, you could read the professional reviews and comparisons, as well as try out by yourself. The HD600 is a high impedance headphone, so I am afraid that the BTR3K could not drive it well.

Best regards
I put in the specs of the hd 600 and the app says it will reach 85db at 75% volume. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Jan 11, 2023 at 2:58 AM Post #3,114 of 3,639
I put in the specs of the hd 600 and the app says it will reach 85db at 75% volume. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There is a difference between loudness in dB and adequate driving power, which requires good driver control, headroom etc. I have tried mt 300 ohm ZMF Auteur from BTR5 and while it get's loud enough, it sounds nowhere near is good as when driven by my desktop amp. BTR5, however, is a champ with my IEM's!
 
Jan 11, 2023 at 1:37 PM Post #3,115 of 3,639
There is a difference between loudness in dB and adequate driving power, which requires good driver control, headroom etc. I have tried mt 300 ohm ZMF Auteur from BTR5 and while it get's loud enough, it sounds nowhere near is good as when driven by my desktop amp. BTR5, however, is a champ with my IEM's!
If the iPhone 6 can run the HD 600, then why can’t a BTR3K?
 
Jan 11, 2023 at 8:51 PM Post #3,116 of 3,639
It obviously could drive nearly any headphone.
But you wouldn't ever explore the full potential of most higher impedance headphones with it.
The BTR5, in my example, could drive a T1.2 or my VO to listenable volume, but they doesn't sound as "weighty" as with a proper portable or desktop amp.

Without knowing how they sound the right way, it could be satisfying, thou. :wink:
 
Jan 12, 2023 at 2:04 AM Post #3,117 of 3,639
If the iPhone 6 can run the HD 600, then why can’t a BTR3K?
To reiterate, it can run it in the sense there will be reasonably loud music outputting, but that is different from producing the best sound the headphone is capable of. For that you will likely need a ore powerful amp.
 
Jan 12, 2023 at 4:38 PM Post #3,118 of 3,639
To reiterate, it can run it in the sense there will be reasonably loud music outputting, but that is different from producing the best sound the headphone is capable of. For that you will likely need a ore powerful amp.
I still don’t understand how an amp running at the same loudness level as an iPhone will make the headphones sound any different. I listen at a reasonably low volume anyway. My HD 660s have about the same sensitivity and volume out of my iPhone as the Apple dirty buds (EarPods).
 
Jan 12, 2023 at 10:24 PM Post #3,119 of 3,639
I still don’t understand how an amp running at the same loudness level as an iPhone will make the headphones sound any different. I listen at a reasonably low volume anyway. My HD 660s have about the same sensitivity and volume out of my iPhone as the Apple dirty buds (EarPods).
You can drive on a mountain road with a VW bug and probably get where you are going, but with a BMW M series or dual motor Tesla, you will experience far more grip and control as you traverse the same road. This isn't the best analogy but if it still doesn't make sense to you, I suggest you try to audition HD600 with a dongle like BTR5 versus a desktop amp. Highly klikely you will have an "aha" moment and recognize the difference, if not then you may be one of the lucky one's whose wallet is safe from upgraditis disease. :pray:
 
Feb 5, 2023 at 8:57 AM Post #3,120 of 3,639
Hi , please forgive me laziness 😄 maybe there is answer to this question.
I own BRT3K and I'm very pleased with it's sound signature. Unfortunately battery is dying quick, so I need a new BT AMP/DAC. Now the quesition. Is BTR5 2012 sound similar to BTR3K or maybe better? I read in general BT AMP DAC topic that it's lightly bland. How do you compare those two in terms of sound quality and general sound profile.
 

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