[FIIO BT11] Portable High-Res Bluetooth Transmitter Is Officially Released!

[onirban]

Same here. I've finally managed to get it updated to 1.09 via android app and select AptX Lossless. Works flawlessly for me with BTR17, streaming directly from my phone Tidal app.

How are.you resampling the Tidal streams with higher(e.g 24bit 96khz) bit rates?

 

[supdotcom]

Is there ETA on when LC3 is coming? Saw articles and item listings saying that it would be updated to support it.

 

[BigZ12]

I've got it working on Android too as well now with the Denon Perl Pro on version 1.09. Comparable stability to the BT-W6 now, as long as I turn off the Bluetooth on my phone after initial setup, otherwise I get some weird static sometimes.
Also no two-second gap at the start of some songs. Finally a functioning product!

Do you hear any difference in sound quality, BT11 vs BT-W6 with AptX Adaptive/Lossless?

 

[imagpie]

Do you hear any difference in sound quality, BT11 vs BT-W6 with AptX Adaptive/Lossless?

With both on Lossless, the BT11 wins on sound quality. But that's probably because the BT11 has a noticeable bit more volume on the same step, which is always nice. When it gets going it's very clean and super enjoyable. I streamed the album Wall of Eyes by The Smile off Tidal on a nice long walk last night - no interruptions. Green lossless light pulsing, Denon app confirming the same.

I would recommend using the Fiio app once to set the codec for your TWS and then never touching it again, as it's still very buggy and not reliable. But at least it has a (sort of) working one now on Android! I prefer the Fiio build quality. Also the Fiio as I mentioned doesn't have the same two/three-second delay as the BT-W6.

My Edge 50 Ultra does do AptX Lossless itself, and pretty well around the house, but outdoors and even sometimes indoors it constantly switches between Adaptive modes. I actually think it depends on where you live, and the strength/proximity of signals etc, as in London on a mini break it was rock solid Lossless all the time, even in busy crowds. These dongles are a god-send for round here though.

The BT-W6 will probably now live hooked up to my PC, the Fiio will go with me on-the-go.

 

[helmutcheese]

Other say the BT-W6 sounds better, they are all digital so basically should sound near the same. but saying that the BT-W6 sound better to me and it can go really loud even with earbuds that do not seem as loud on my phone (Android 15 crap volume limiter).

At least with the BT-W6 you know for fact when you are getting Lossless, with the BT11 not so much.

 

[imagpie]

Other say the BT-W6 sounds better, they are all digital so basically should sound near the same. but saying that the BT-W6 sound better to me and it can go really loud even with earbuds that do not seem as loud on my phone (Android 15 crap volume limiter).

At least with the BT-W6 you know for fact when you are getting Lossless, with the BT11 not so much.

Both sound very good. As you say, digital should be all the same. I do like the extra volume headroom when on-the-go though. I would actually recommend either/or at this point.

On the definitely lossless, I agree there. If Creative can add a separate indicator, so can Fiio. But any time I've checked in the Denon app on multipoint with my phone, it does give the 44k HQ indicator consistent with Lossless. For other earbuds, yeah, something to bear in mind

 

[ZiChi]

OK, after the update my B&W Pi8 pair well with BT11 but there is no chance my Dali Io 12 would pair, it is just flashing (pairing mode) and sometimes it stops flashing and it seems to be paired but only silence from the earphones and the LED turns red. Today I updated my S23 U to Android 15 so perhaps I will see some progress somewhere BTW I never managed to see AptX Lossless colour on BT11 always only Green (Adaptive)... not sure how to enforce it via USB Audio Player - bit perfect output...tried 16bit 44.1khz songs, but will wait for another FW update and perhaps we will get there at some point

 

[helmutcheese]

^^ GREEN is Adaptive/Lossless, there is now way to tell which for now.

 

[Dtuck90]

My understanding is AptX Lossless is part of AptX Adaptive and that it wouldn’t be possible to separate them?

I could be totally wrong but if a 16/44 file is played that is transmitted as AptX Lossless but any other resolution is transmitted as AptX Adaptive which is lossy. In an ideal world everything would be dithered down to 16/44 on the fly so it’s gets transmitted via AptX Lossless. Sorry if I’m totally wrong about that

Adaptive/Lossless is working pretty much perfectly with my Pi8s. Only issue I’ve currently got is that I can’t get the Fiio app to work anymore if I did want to change any settings

 

[helmutcheese]

Creative have a different colour of LED for them, YELLOW is Lossless no second guessing.

Again the Dongles do not care what you feed them, they down-sample it unlike a phpne so 24/96k Tidal will still play as Lossless on them where as on a phone it will drop to Adaptive.

The FiiO app has also stopped seeing my BT11 after it was all updated and working but I rarely use it as it is to much bother.

 

[onirban]

My understanding is AptX Lossless is part of AptX Adaptive and that it wouldn’t be possible to separate them?

I could be totally wrong but if a 16/44 file is played that is transmitted as AptX Lossless but any other resolution is transmitted as AptX Adaptive which is lossy. In an ideal world everything would be dithered down to 16/44 on the fly so it’s gets transmitted via AptX Lossless. Sorry if I’m totally wrong about that

Adaptive/Lossless is working pretty much perfectly with my Pi8s. Only issue I’ve currently got is that I can’t get the Fiio app to work anymore if I did want to change any settings

Well it dosent work in my case. I'm using BT11 with Bose QC ultra earbuds, and any qobuz stream higher than 16Bit/44khz starts chopping. It does not revert to Aptx adaptive.

 

[imagpie]

I'm not sure if this would help/make a difference, or how it works on Qobuz, but on the Tidal app I set the quality to High and so all I get is 16/44.

 

[onirban]

I'm not sure if this would help/make a difference, or how it works on Qobuz, but on the Tidal app I set the quality to High and so all I get is 16/44.

Same with qobuz, but then when I use a wired dac I prefer to set at max bit rates. Ideally I shouldnt need to do that. So I ise usb player pro which resamples the stream, a workaround.

 

[lairpost]

SOLD: I have a BT11 on 1.07 that I'm looking to sell as I just don't use it since moving to a DAP. It's worked without issue on iOS for me. Send me a PM if you're looking to pickup one and save a bit

 

[Nawin Sapchinda]

I Just let you guys know that 1.09 now is work perfectly on iOS app after they updated