[UntilThen]

you really need no more, can just spend time building a couple nice sets you like and call it a day and enjoy the music.

I'll be honest. I could call it a day now. This Yggdrasil and Ragnarok setup is really good according to my ears. I could just listen to music now, switching in headphones. I am not alone. In the Yggdrasil and Ragnarok thread, there are a few people there who thinks the same too.

However I am always curious what a top class tube amp will sound like. If I don't try it I'll never know. So I am really curious to know how EC Zana Deux S, DNA Stratus, Glenn's OTL 6x6BL7 or Glenn's EL3N sounds like. It has to be only one though.

Not that I think Euforia is not good enough. Euforia is pretty good in comparison to all the amps I've heard. I have heard La Figaro 339, Violectric v281 and Woo Audio Wa22 and Wa33. I have also heard SimeAudio Moon 430 HAD. I have a good idea what the better amps sounds like.

Woo Audio Wa33 with HiFiMan Susvara shows a lot of promise. Them bass and mid will rock you.

 

[whirlwind]

You can just sit back and roll headphones.

I plan on trying a few that I have always wanted to hear.

HD800 just scales so darn well, what a great headphone.

I need to stay out of the DSD store and save more each week .....

 

[Rossliew]

Matt, you just need one Glenn otl, one Glenn EL3N and one Glenn 300B and your set up is complete, period.

Now gimme a quote on all those darn tubes of yours

 

[UntilThen]

You can just sit back and roll headphones.

Absolutely. I am afraid I will be spending more on headphones.

I even get excited trying out Audeze LCD2.2 and Grado PS2000E. Sadly Fostex Th-900 didn't do it for me. I thought I was going to be blown away by the bass but the Susvara certainly was more forceful in the low frequencies. I was very impressed by the Grado PS2000E mid bass but at US$2695, it's an expensive Grado.

You are right on HD800. I thought I was the only one who think that HD800 is great. It's an amazing headphone. Right weight. Great comfort and tone. A must for details lover.

Right now though, I'm using HD650 in balanced mode on Yggy and Rggy. I could listen to this the whole day and night. Turn up the volume and your ears can literally bounce.

 

[UntilThen]

Matt, you just need one Glenn otl, one Glenn EL3N and one Glenn 300B and your set up is complete, period.

You are right. Stavros who has many amps, told me that Glenn's amps are amongst his better sounding amps and he has the EC Balancing Act too. In that context, I have a better idea.

I'll add the cost of all my tubes and multiply by 2.... then I will give you the quote.

Tomorrow I'll line up all the power tubes for a photo shoot. Just for you.

 

[xDaveyJ]

I listend to a friends Euforia the other day and I must say I much prefer the liquid, lush sound of the Elise, Micro detail is similar, Euforia sounds a bit leaner, slightly better staging.

I love how both are build, fantastic amps.

 

[Rossliew]

You are right. Stavros who has many amps, told me that Glenn's amps are amongst his better sounding amps and he has the EC Balancing Act too. In that context, I have a better idea.

I'll add the cost of all my tubes and multiply by 2.... then I will give you the quote.

Tomorrow I'll line up all the power tubes for a photo shoot. Just for you.

>.<

 

[whirlwind]

Absolutely. I am afraid I will be spending more on headphones.

I even get excited trying out Audeze LCD2.2 and Grado PS2000E. Sadly Fostex Th-900 didn't do it for me. I thought I was going to be blown away by the bass but the Susvara certainly was more forceful in the low frequencies. I was very impressed by the Grado PS2000E mid bass but at US$2695, it's an expensive Grado.

You are right on HD800. I thought I was the only one who think that HD800 is great. It's an amazing headphone. Right weight. Great comfort and tone. A must for details lover.

Right now though, I'm using HD650 in balanced mode on Yggy and Rggy. I could listen to this the whole day and night. Turn up the volume and your ears can literally bounce.

Are you kidding, there are many, many people who love the HD800 and HD6XX headphones...they have stood the test of time

 

[UntilThen]

I listend to a friends Euforia the other day and I must say I much prefer the liquid, lush sound of the Elise, Micro detail is similar, Euforia sounds a bit leaner, slightly better staging.

I love how both are build, fantastic amps.

You're the 2nd person who have presented Elise and Euforia in this manner. The other person is @Aornic . It's probably different ears, other gear in the chain or tubes. What I hear is Elise sounded leaner and Euforia is more texture and greater density of tone. However I respect others presentation. It's how we hear it.

I agree with you too on Elise and Euforia built and clean and simple design. There's elegance in the simple design. Above all, I find them to be very refined tone. They may not have the bass weight of the La Figaro 339 but nevertheless I really like the fluid and liquid tone of the FA amps. To put it simply, it's not dry.

 

[Rossliew]

U want power, transparency and tube rolling flexibility, get a Glenn OTL amp, period.

 

[UntilThen]

Are you kidding, there are many, many people who love the HD800 and HD6XX headphones...they have stood the test of time

I think many love the HD6XX but I can't say the same for the HD800. We are probably the minority that love the HD800. However it fared very well in the Big Sound 2015 amongst all the headphones there.

 

[UntilThen]

U want power, transparency and tube rolling flexibility, get a Glenn OTL amp, period.

I think I am done with tube rolling. I can't believe I got so deep in it with Elise and Euforia. With all that I spend on my tubes (plus adapters !!!), I could probably get a good tube amp.

As for power and transparency, who doesn't love it. Actually, details and clarity is more important for me. Soundstage and a solid, controlled bass too. Finally the tone. I just love tube amp tone. It comes in many flavours. Strangely the 2 solid state amps that I love (v281 and Rag) does sound a bit like tube amp.

 

[xDaveyJ]

You're the 2nd person who have presented Elise and Euforia in this manner. The other person is @Aornic . It's probably different ears, other gear in the chain or tubes. What I hear is Elise sounded leaner and Euforia is more texture and greater density of tone. However I respect others presentation. It's how we hear it.

I agree with you too on Elise and Euforia built and clean and simple design. There's elegance in the simple design. Above all, I find them to be very refined tone. They may not have the bass weight of the La Figaro 339 but nevertheless I really like the fluid and liquid tone of the FA amps. To put it simply, it's not dry.

Tested both with stock tubes and various other parings and it always came away with the Euforia being lean, thin in the vocals. That said it's still a great amplifier, I've always been a big fan of lusher, more weightier vocals. I much prefer the tone of the Elise. The Euforia seems better for those who like a less tubey sounding amp IMO

 

[UntilThen]

Tested both with stock tubes and various other parings and it always came away with the Euforia being lean, thin in the vocals. That said it's still a great amplifier, I've always been a big fan of lusher, more weightier vocals. I much prefer the tone of the Elise. The Euforia seems better for those who like a less tubey sounding amp IMO

That's interesting. I suppose both Elise and Euforia are burn in? Euforia's tone changes in the first 50 hours... at least.

However as I said, I respect others presentation. To my ears, Euforia has a wider soundstage, better micro dynamics and certainly a stronger bass. I think that's how @mordy hears it too.

 

[Rossliew]

I think I am done with tube rolling. I can't believe I got so deep in it with Elise and Euforia. With all that I spend on my tubes (plus adapters !!!), I could probably get a good tube amp.

As for power and transparency, who doesn't love it. Actually, details and clarity is more important for me. Soundstage and a solid, controlled bass too. Finally the tone. I just love tube amp tone. It comes in many flavours. Strangely the 2 solid state amps that I love (v281 and Rag) does sound a bit like tube amp.

Indeed! It's the tube rolling that gets to the wallet...the amps are just a prelude to it..