Feliks-Audio ELISE...New thread.

[Suuup]

Plenty of singles avail in the USA:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tube-1ea-Silvertone-6N7-G-engraved-base-tstd-amp-radio-amplifier-ham-/111798152185

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delco-6N7G-Twin-Triode-Power-Amp-tube-Hickok-TV7B-tested-59-60-min-38-38-/271841624886

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEN-RAD-6N7G-6N7-Vacuum-Tube-Audio-Tested-Strong-/262082865416

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philco-USA-6N7G-Black-Round-Plate-D-Foil-Get-Engraved-Base-ST-Vacuum-Tube-94-97-/121791445703

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ken-Rad-USA-6N7G-2-Black-Box-Smoked-Glass-ST-Vacuum-Tube-90-77-/151853206243

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCA-USA-6N7G-2-Black-Round-Smooth-Plate-Bottom-D-Foil-Get-ST-Vacuum-Tube-80-84-/121791452234

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Philco-USA-6N7G-Black-Round-Plate-D-Foil-Get-Engraved-Base-ST-Vacuum-Tube-/121793809148

Have bought from Viva Tubes...just as described and shipped quickly.

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I'm aware, but I can't import from the US. If it's over 80 DKK, which is about 12 USD, I have to pay 20 $ extra + 25%. So if a tube costs 15 $ (this includes shipping) I have to pay around 40 $ for it. 

 

[JazzVinyl]

I'm aware, but I can't import from the US. If it's over 80 DKK, which is about 12 USD, I have to pay 20 $ extra + 25%. So if a tube costs 15 $ (this includes shipping) I have to pay around 40 $ for it. 

Oh I see!!!

Did you have to pay a duty on the tube I sent you?

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[Suuup]

Oh I see!!!

Did you have to pay a duty on the tube I sent you?

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Nop, somtimes I get lucky. 
I once ordered a new screen for my phone, cost me about 50 $ on Ebay. When I received it, I noticed the package said 10 $, which is probably why it got through duty. 

 

[JazzVinyl]

Working on a nicer FDD20 adapter...here the little FDD20 'base flippers' have a drop of solder added, prior to adding wires between here and the new octal base:

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Hope this works

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[mordy]

For all you guys who only have one tube of something: PATIENCE

OK, so I have one 5998, and one Delco 6N7G. There is no problem getting another one, but I have this self imposed rule of not paying crazy money for a tube, which makes it more difficult.

Suup: R u saying that anything over $12 entails import duties and taxes? If so, what happens if u buy something for less than $12?

 

[JazzVinyl]

For all you guys who only have one tube of something: PATIENCE

Mordy loves to remind us of patience!
And he is right. My 5998 pair that did not seem to not like a lot of my tubes, when I first popped them in, have now come around, and like all, save for the FDD20/ECC31 combo.

I have a number of single tube specimen, as well.
PATIENCE, a mate will be located for them, when it's least expected.

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[hypnos1]

Working on a nicer FDD20 adapter...here the little FDD20 'base flippers' have a drop of solder added, prior to adding wires between here and the new octal base:
 

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Hope this works

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Coming along nicely, JV...things start getting very interesting soon...

...just take your time, and remember...check, check and check again your routing.
 
And when you're done (and all is well!), give yourself a big pat on the back...plus a large glass of your favourite tipple - you'll have earned it. And if all is not quite well, make it a VERY large one...you'll NEED it, lol!!! 

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Wishing you all the best,
CJ

 

[JazzVinyl]

Coming along nicely, JV...things start getting very interesting soon... ...just take your time, and remember...check, check and check again your routing.

And when you're done (and all is well!), give yourself a big pat on the back...plus a large glass of your favourite tipple - you'll have earned it. And if all is not quite well, make it a VERY large one...you'll NEED it, lol!!!  ...

Wishing you all the best,
CJ

Thanks H1...

And for others who want to try and make custom adapters...may I suggest you watch this soldering instructional video, in it's entirety (if your the least bit rusty at soldering, like me):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIT4ra6Mo0s

I am headed to the store to buy soldering flux paste.

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[Suuup]

For all you guys who only have one tube of something: PATIENCE

OK, so I have one 5998, and one Delco 6N7G. There is no problem getting another one, but I have this self imposed rule of not paying crazy money for a tube, which makes it more difficult.

Suup: R u saying that anything over $12 entails import duties and taxes? If so, what happens if u buy something for less than $12?

Yes. If the order is less than 80 DKK, which is about 12 USD, there is no extra charge.

 

[agnostic1er]

 
Don't know about the smoothest upper-treble but the most powerful sub-bass range IMO is the Tung Sol 5998.
 
I think you can achieve what you want with ecc31/chatham 6as7g.

Thanks Until for your advise; however TS 5998 seem to be always pricey and I don't want to go with adapters (ECC31)...

 

[UntilThen]

Eye witness info from GEC
 
If you're interested in GEC/MOV/OSRAM here are some correspondences between an ex employee who work in the plant and a fellow enthusiast. I find it an interesting insight from a person who is actually involved.
 
This quote should make those of you who own one of this tubes happy...
 
All MOV/GEC valves were individually tested. Not 10% tested like most other makers at that time.
 
and the link:-
 
http://forum.marstran.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=130

 

[UntilThen]

  Thanks Until for your advise; however TS 5998 seem to be always pricey and I don't want to go with adapters (ECC31)...

My pleasure agnostic1er. A month ago I would have sworn that 5998 is a must but now having heard ECC31 with Chatham 6AS7G or Mullard 6080, I've changed my mind.
 
I really think that everyone should sample a ECC31 at some point in their tube adventure. Adapters are never a problem. It's the music...on further burn in the ECC31 clearly pulls ahead of my Philco 6N7G.

 

[agnostic1er]

 
My pleasure agnostic1er. A month ago I would have sworn that 5998 is a must but now having heard ECC31 with Chatham 6AS7G or Mullard 6080, I've changed my mind.
 
I really think that everyone should sample a ECC31 at some point in their tube adventure. Adapters are never a problem. It's the music...on further burn in the ECC31 clearly pulls ahead of my Philco 6N7G.

What's the main sonic difference between ECC31 and good 6N8S like my Melz? (if you never heard Melz ones, I would say they are nicely dynamical and detailed, with an extended fr range, both on trebles and sub-bass)

 

[UntilThen]

Ok I've never heard Melz. Nep has the Melz and for some reasons he has forgotten about it and bought 2 pairs of ECC31. That is very telling.

My best 6SN7s are probably the Sylvania Gold 6SN7WGT and also the 7N7 Raytheon. 7N7 are Sylvania made...the early Sylvanias and they sound sweet.
 
However none of these are close to the ECC31 according to my ears.
 
ECC31 ...my impressions. You get a wall of sound coming at you and you feel closer to the music. Some says vocals are a bit recessed which I cannot understand why. I think that the mid range and vocals are where it shines. However that's not fair to the sub bass it produce. It has subterranean reach and impact. I don't like sharp trebles but I find the ECC31 high notes smooth and musical.
 
Also on my HE560, I prefer ECC31/5998. I think Nep does as well with his HD800. It provides the lift in bass and across the FR spectrum. The HE560 now has the oomph.
 
I believe the Melz are good otherwise Feliks Audio wouldn't be offering them as upgrade options. I would like to try a pair at some point.

 

[JazzVinyl]

Thanks Until for your advise; however TS 5998 seem to be always pricey and I don't want to go with adapters (ECC31)...

I found the weakest spot in the Elise as delivered, was the Russian powers.

If you don't want to use adapters for drivers but want superb, top notch sound, then my suggestion would be 5998's (I know they are pricey, but they are really great tubes) and a pair of 60's or 50's Sylvania 6SN7 chrome domes.

You'll be very pleased with that combo, I would think.

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