Feliks-Audio ELISE...New thread.

Oct 26, 2015 at 8:20 PM Post #811 of 13,932
  Elise initial impressions
 
Jerick you have no idea. I'm speechless now. I'm running with a pair of Lorenz C3gs and Tung Sol 5998. Elise has more slam and bass weight than my DV336se with these tubes !!!
 
If I ever doubted that she wouldn't sound like a tube amp, I'm ever so wrong. With my favourite tracks now playing, Elise is everything that I wanted in a tube amp and didn't know about until now. Forget that I rave about the DV in the past. Elise is wayyyyyyyyyy better. How much I can't put a figure but it's so muuuuuuuuuuucccch. This is the 1st time I've heard the C3gs and OMG .....buy these tubes RIGHT NOW. Maybe it's a combination of Elise and C3gs and 5998.
 
I need to gather my thoughts. Sorry I'm lost in music right now.....
 
HE560 the planar magnetic has never sounded so good. Elise is driving this headphone with EASE. HE560 is 35ohms and 90db low efficiency....not a problem with Elise.


Dude your making me drool.  Just a second while I pick my jaw up off the floor......
 
Oct 26, 2015 at 8:29 PM Post #812 of 13,932
Elise has been playing for more than an hour now. With the volume at 11 o'clock using HE560, I felt the top metal plates and they are barely warm. Heat dissipation is way better than the DV definitely.
 
Listening to Leonard Cohen 'In my secret life' now and it's warm and lush on my HE560. Incredible. HE560 has bright characteristics to me but now it's sounding how I like it....warm and lush. Who would have thought that bass is now impactful and extends deep with this headphone. This is now sounding like my HD650 but with the added details especially in the highs.
 
With my HD650 I won't go above 9 o'clock because it would be too loud.
 
Goodness gracious I'm hearing notes now I haven't heard before on the DV336se.
 
I haven't even touch the stock tubes LOL.
 
The stock tubes looks nice though. The Tung Sol 6SN7GTB reissue and Svetlana 6H13C looks shiny and brand new. I'm not sure why they are numbered though and was told in the instructions to insert into the numbered slots as well. I'll try that...maybe greater magic will happen.
 
Oct 26, 2015 at 8:47 PM Post #813 of 13,932
  Elise has been playing for more than an hour now. With the volume at 11 o'clock using HE560, I felt the top metal plates and they are barely warm. Heat dissipation is way better than the DV definitely.
 
Listening to Leonard Cohen 'In my secret life' now and it's warm and lush on my HE560. Incredible. HE560 has bright characteristics to me but now it's sounding how I like it....warm and lush. Who would have thought that bass is now impactful and extends deep with this headphone. This is now sounding like my HD650 but with the added details especially in the highs.
 
With my HD650 I won't go above 9 o'clock because it would be too loud.
 
Goodness gracious I'm hearing notes now I haven't heard before on the DV336se.
 
I haven't even touch the stock tubes LOL.
 
The stock tubes looks nice though. The Tung Sol 6SN7GTB reissue and Svetlana 6H13C looks shiny and brand new. I'm not sure why they are numbered though and was told in the instructions to insert into the numbered slots as well. I'll try that...maybe greater magic will happen.

On Jadis amplifier it is the same, the tubes are numbered because the Quality control and latest listening test have been done using this exact placement !  And I'm still waiting......
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Oct 26, 2015 at 8:54 PM Post #814 of 13,932
This is incredible. She's getting better by the minute. The notes have more authority now. Things are tightening up and it's been less than 2 hours. I'm seeing and hearing Elise morphing before my eyes and ears.
 
Oct 26, 2015 at 9:05 PM Post #815 of 13,932
  This is incredible. She's getting better by the minute. The notes have more authority now. Things are tightening up and it's been less than 2 hours. I'm seeing and hearing Elise morphing before my eyes and ears.


 
Oct 26, 2015 at 9:42 PM Post #816 of 13,932
Greater soundstaging. Imaging is spot on. Decay is spot on. Fast and rhythmic, Elise has poise and control. Mid range is sweet and engaging. Bass hits hard and goes deep. You hear and feel it at the same time. There's no mistaking the tube amp sound which is what I love.
 
I felt that HE560 mate very well with Elise. Switching over to HD650, I'm astonished just how good it sound as well. I have no doubt Elise will pair beautifully with any of the TOTL headphones out there, such as HD800, T1, LCDs, etc.
 
See ya later...it's lunch break.
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Oct 26, 2015 at 10:16 PM Post #817 of 13,932
Hi UT,

I remember my initial reaction to the Elise: Whereas the heavily modded Little Dot was playing, the Elise was singing!

And as hypnos1 and many others have said- the Elise just gets better and better with time - up to around 150 hours of break in are needed.

And then you start to get used to the New Normal - sensational with the right tubes....
 
Oct 27, 2015 at 12:02 AM Post #818 of 13,932
Greater soundstaging. Imaging is spot on. Decay is spot on. Fast and rhythmic, Elise has poise and control. Mid range is sweet and engaging. Bass hits hard and goes deep. You hear and feel it at the same time. There's no mistaking the tube amp sound which is what I love.


You just described the attributes of our good friends:

Mr 'C'
Mr '3'
and
Mr 'g'



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Oct 27, 2015 at 12:29 AM Post #819 of 13,932
Yes JV I wanted my first impression of Elise to be good. So I took a punt on the C3gs and 5998 and it prove to be a winner. These tubes are already burn in. In the weeks ahead I'll listen to other combinations but for now this is REALLY good. Once again my thanks to Colin for making this possible. He made the adapters and I remember very early on he was ecstatic about the C3gs. Now I can see why he was excited about them.
 
Burn in will only see Elise pull ahead no doubt about that. My own experience in the past with my home sound system and car sound systems have shown me that. However I do believe that an initial listen will give you a glimpse of what's in store. In this case I had a real glimpse of Elise and she sparkles.
 
Oct 27, 2015 at 12:38 AM Post #820 of 13,932
Some pictures...
 
The power coating on the casing has a semi smooth feel and it's very well done. The RCA terminals are very good quality. I am surprised that Elise is not as heavy as I thought she would be.
 
Those sockets are flushed with the surface and have no problems with wider 6080. They also seem good quality and securely attached.

 
My only wish is that the front panel is semi-glossy and doesn't attract dust and that the volume knob is the same bronze colour and material as the Feliks Audio logo on the top.

 
Depth of DV and Elise is the same and they use the same power and driver tubes
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Oct 27, 2015 at 1:18 AM Post #821 of 13,932
Congratulations on your long-awaited reception of the Elise, UT. I am happy to hear you are enjoying the amp. I really wish someone with a 339 could compare the two. 
Do you notice a difference in perceived speed and transient response between the 336 and the Elise? 
 
Oct 27, 2015 at 1:33 AM Post #822 of 13,932
LJ you're here
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 I must thank you that today I'm the owner of an Elise tube amp. If you send me your amp I'll do a comparison
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Yes Elise is definitely more agile and athletic. The transient response of Elise is superb. Her ability to start and stop when the sound going into her start and stop is uncanny. It is precise. HE560 sounds exactly as Dr Fang intended it to sound. Listening to Dire Straits 'Money For Nothing' is a revelation.
 
Now you should buy Elise.
 
Oct 27, 2015 at 1:45 AM Post #823 of 13,932
Many Congratulations UT, finally good things happened :p All impressions were true right? Mine is number 13 and impresses me everyday and night even though I have nothing to roll or fancy planner magnetic headphones to play with haha This thread is becoming a bank breaking place :D I just checked those Mazda 6N7 tube and it is gone higher but I'll not buy anything else until my first tubes ECC31 plus 5998 arrive at my doorstep, if the magic is confirmed only then I'll go higher in the tube rolling business :D Already spent more than Elise to make it sound greater haha

For those who are waiting for their Elise, be patient. Hand crafted stuff takes time in the oven :p Goodluck everybody, I'm off to spending a long day with Elise. While I patiently wait for my tube's arrival.
 
Oct 27, 2015 at 2:02 AM Post #824 of 13,932
Thanks Raven. You did the right thing buying the ECC31 and 5998. They may well be all you need seeing you're going to use a HD600. I think it will be just perfect. When you listen to Beethoven 5th Symphony be prepared to be blown out of your chair. Elise with those tubes will show your Geek a clean pair of heels.
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Darn Raven, these C3gs with 5998 sounds so good I think you should try them too.
 
Oct 27, 2015 at 2:52 AM Post #825 of 13,932
  Thanks Raven. You did the right thing buying the ECC31 and 5998. They may well be all you need seeing you're going to use a HD600. I think it will be just perfect. When you listen to Beethoven 5th Symphony be prepared to be blown out of your chair. Elise with those tubes will show your Geek a clean pair of heels.
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Darn Raven, these C3gs with 5998 sounds so good I think you should try them too.

LOL I tried so hard to resist C3G Siemens :D Don't drag me back into it. I might try if someone is tired of his adapters and C3G-S tubes haha 
 
I am damn sure that after the ECC31/5998 combo, all I would need is a better pair of headphones :P And all my money should go there first..
 
Right now I am going through this test posted online, Tidal, Sound Cloud, Spotify and everything is such a big online streaming mess that I never really trust but when you want to instantly play a song, it works just fine. However, the question is, do we really hear the difference? Link I will try it later today and share my experience :)
 

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