Feliks-Audio ELISE...New thread.

[jerick70]

  Ok. I want you to use your stock tubes completely. That is, use both stock power and drivers tubes. Then test again. See if you get distortion at 1:30 or more.
 
It's hard for me to verify whether mine distorts at high volume because if my source is max, I cannot go past 1 pm on Elise without destroying my ears. However as I said I can reduce my source volume to almost zero...say 1 then I can turn Elise volume to max...and I can listen to the music clearly without distortion. This is with FDD20 and 5998.
 
I wish @jerick70 is here to confirm because he has the LCD2.2 and the 1st impression he gave me was very good. He did not mention distortion and I think he had it at 1pm.

Hi Everyone,
 
Sorry I've been MIA for a while because of Christmas.  We have all of our relatives over to our house every year an have a huge shindig.  No time to listen to Elise unfortunately.
 
@aqsw On your issues with distortion.  I have no problems at all like that at high volumes.  I tested pretty thoroughly when I got her.  Sorry to hear the you sold your LCD-2s.  I won't be selling mine for a while.    
 
-Jeff

 

[UntilThen]

Hey guys I woke up and it's still New Year's day and Elise is still in my study. I wasn't dreaming all of last year. 

 
Wow so many good news. Let me digest it one at a time.
 
@CITIZENLIN, you're definitely resident commentator here now. You got everyone super excited with EL3N. You're a natural. Keep it up. 

 
@aqsw, congrats once again on getting the Beyer T1. The seller replied to my PM on New Year's day. Said it's sold but he didn't have time to update the status as he was overseas. Bummer, it's a nearly new unit and going for AUD$750. It's ok. My search for another headphone will come this year. There will be no rush and impulse buying. It's either the T1 or HD800. I won't be getting another planar dynamics as I already have HE560, which I love like a Koala bear.
 
@bazelio many things deemed impossible, have been possible on Elise. As I said, I would love to have a pair of Ether-C and LCD-XC to try on Elise. So good luck on your hunt for a good sounding system for your office. Work and pleasure, that's a sure fire way to great productivity.
 
@jerick70 you're back finally. 

 Good to hear from you. Yes you were MIA but we understand. With turkeys, roast ham, champagne, BBQ, it's easy to be missing in action. But now that you're back, you're on sentry duty for a month !!! You're going to make aqsw really sad with that news. However, I think the T1 will bring him super comfort. 

 
 
And jerick before I forget, a detail review of LCD2.2 with Elise on my desk (on this thread) before Valentine's day or I'll take that LCD2.2 off you. 

 Oh don't you forget to buy yourself a pair of EL3N and adapters.
 
ps next year I'm coming to your shindig. 
 
Sob !!! This was what I wanted to get but it's sold.

 

[UntilThen]

@JazzVinyl, do you have this?
 
http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php/topic/94812-fs-mfsl-beatles-boxset-the-collection-mint-–-holy-grail/

 

[hypnos1]

  folks ,
 
EL3N .THE REAL DEAL
 
Very detail like SS yet sounds like analog.
Highlight is sound stage is hauntingly good. You just have to hear it. Describing it doesn't do justices.
 
No hum, runs cooler than FDD20s
I left it on last night, when I woke up this morning, I checked the temps on each tube and Elise
 
5998s...... 75-80c
FL3N....... 28-30c
Elise ...... 22c
 
Listening to   DONDE ESTABAS TU BY Omara Portuondo early this morning
This track is very analog sounding piece. My feet started tapping and started dancing (me???? terrible dancer/singer and no... I don't understand a word of what she was singing. JUST MUSIC , Elise, EL3N

 
A "Real Deal" indeed, CL - that these (very!) modestly priced tubes can perform at this level is truly amazing. They, like the Beyer T1s, were just made for the Elise...or is it the other way round, lol?! Together, they are - as you say - managing to actually achieve what so many claim to do...ie. deliver a sound that combines the better qualities of Solid State with those of analog. And yes, in a way that is hard to put across in mere words - you do "just have to hear it"...

(which is precisely what I hope others will be doing very soon, lol!

).
 
ps.  A bit risky, leaving a tube amp unattended for that long!

...but certainly confirmed just how cool Elise runs with the EL3Ns in place!!

- and that's without the need for an external power supply...lovely!!
 
HAPPY LISTENING....

 

[UntilThen]

Who would have thought that Mrs XuLing replied to me personally via email on New Year's day. 
 
I enquired about my adapters. She told me that for US customers, it will take 10 working days but elsewhere it will take 15 - 25 working days for delivery. 

 
So I'm the first to have my adapters shipped out (13th Dec tracking says) and it's still doing around the world trip. Oh well Mrs Xu Ling is so lovely. She said not to worry. If it's lost, she'll send me another 24K gold ones. That's for EL3N and C3G. 

 
Aren't we fortunate to have a personal adapter maker and seller for Elise.

 

[jerick70]

  Hey guys I woke up and it's still New Year's day and Elise is still in my study. I wasn't dreaming all of last year. 

 
Wow so many good news. Let me digest it one at a time.
 
@CITIZENLIN, you're definitely resident commentator here now. You got everyone super excited with EL3N. You're a natural. Keep it up. 

 
@aqsw, congrats once again on getting the Beyer T1. The seller replied to my PM on New Year's day. Said it's sold but he didn't have time to update the status as he was overseas. Bummer, it's a nearly new unit and going for AUD$750. It's ok. My search for another headphone will come this year. There will be no rush and impulse buying. It's either the T1 or HD800. I won't be getting another planar dynamics as I already have HE560, which I love like a Koala bear.
 
@bazelio many things deemed impossible, have been possible on Elise. As I said, I would love to have a pair of Ether-C and LCD-XC to try on Elise. So good luck on your hunt for a good sounding system for your office. Work and pleasure, that's a sure fire way to great productivity.
 
@jerick70 you're back finally. 

 Good to hear from you. Yes you were MIA but we understand. With turkeys, roast ham, champagne, BBQ, it's easy to be missing in action. But now that you're back, you're on sentry duty for a month !!! You're going to make aqsw really sad with that news. However, I think the T1 will bring him super comfort. 

 
 
And jerick before I forget, a detail review of LCD2.2 with Elise on my desk (on this thread) before Valentine's day or I'll take that LCD2.2 off you. 

 Oh don't you forget to buy yourself a pair of EL3N and adapters.
 
ps next year I'm coming to your shindig. 
 
Sob !!! This was what I wanted to get but it's sold.

 
Yes I'm back. Today for a short time though, it's my Wife's birthday today.  We have so many holidays in December in my house it's hard to do anything else with work thrown in there.  I'll be on more in the coming days, weeks, and months for sure.  Elise is so good I have to share my experiences.

 
@aqsw is going to be sad.  Even if the LCD-2 was problematic at high volume I still would keep it.  It sounds Soooooo good at lower volumes on Elise.  I can't listen at higher volumes anyway.
 
I have the quote for the EL3Ns.  Hopefully he has some in stock still.
 
I am planning a review of the LCD-2s and the Elise.  I still have to burn her in though.
 
UT, you are welcome anytime to my shindigs.  

 
 
Those are beautiful headphones.  And the stand is breathtaking.  Are those the new or old T1s?

 

[UntilThen]

   
Yes I'm back. Today for a short time though, it's my Wife's birthday today.  We have so many holidays in December in my house it's hard to do anything else with work thrown in there.  I'll be on more in the coming days, weeks, and months for sure.  Elise is so good I have to share my experiences.

 
@aqsw is going to be sad.  Even if the LCD-2 was problematic at high volume I still would keep it.  It sounds Soooooo good at lower volumes on Elise.  I can't listen at higher volumes anyway.
 
I have the quote for the EL3Ns.  Hopefully he has some in stock still.
 
I am planning a review of the LCD-2s and the Elise.  I still have to burn her in though.
 
UT, you are welcome anytime to my shindigs.  

 
 
Those are beautiful headphones.  And the stand is breathtaking.  Are those the new or old T1s?

They are the original T1, stand or DAC (that is an expensive DAC make like a stand) not included but it's SOLD at AUD$750 or roughly US$550 !!! Belongs to a reviewer of audio gear down under. It has original box and in MINT condition. Ok, no matter..I'll look for something later. Maybe a HD800 ? 
 
Jerick, I'm really coming to your shindig. Along with aqsw, all the way from Winnipeg, on a Burson whatever that is. 

 
 
Whatever you do, don't forget to buy 2 pairs of EL3Ns. One pair for you and one pair for your wife hahaha.
 
ps:- This is the stand or DAC. 

 There is a more expensive model but same shape.
https://www.addictedtoaudio.com.au/product/auralic-gemini-1000-stand-with-dac-and-headphone-amplifier

 

[UntilThen]

I close my eyes as Norah Jones sings right into my ears. This is how good the Fivre 6N7G brown base are. Thanks @Suuup . I feel like I don't need EL3Ns with these...
 

 

[hypnos1]

Hey @CITIZENLIN, and all those eagerly awaiting their own experience of the EL3N...that "hard to put in words" statement has suddenly had a very bright light shone on it, courtesy of another midnight session, plus Fleetwood Mac's 'Rumours' and Barbra Streisand's 'Guilty' albums - ie. could have sworn I was listening to pristine vinyl, not CD!!...but without a single click, plop, thud, hint of hiss...just deathly, black, background silence...sheer heaven!...How can this be?...My state of confounded confusion is now complete, lol!

...
 
Goodnight to you all...and welcome to 2016....CHEERS! 

 
 
ps. Final confirmation of the 'vinyl' sound - my acid test...Annie Lennox's "No more I love you's", and Alison Moyet's "All cried out", which on CD are usually especially prone to its main drawbacks. Have just been able to listen to them both at the highest volume I have ever managed without wincing, and without losing any sparkle or treble energy and detail. Complete...utter...total...confounded...confusion!!
 
I need to get to my bed...BFN...

 

 

[supersonic395]

So I'll be receiving the Beyer T1.2 headphones on Sunday, but no way to adequately power them...and I don't want to sully the experience by plugging them directly into my current (low low powered) audio devices.
 
What a situation!
 
Elise, you're my only hope

 

[UntilThen]

From the brown base to the Philips Miniwatt FDD20, I'm astounded how good these 12V powered drivers are. I think they eclipsed the brown base just. The venerable FDD20 are entertaining me now. If Elise is sounding like a high end tube amp, it's because of these drivers with 5998. It's such a euphonic musical presentation. This is tube sound in all its glory. I'm a fan of female vocalist and what I'm hearing now through my HE560 is pure bliss. Bass is tight and controlled without over powering the midrange, whilst the treble maintains the clear high notes. It's a musical whole. 
 
Now EL3N, bring it on. I really need to know what your hype is all about. You're in the company of aristocratic drivers. 

 
@supersonic395 you can bring your T1 G2 to my house on Monday and we'll find out what this Gen 2 is all about. 

 
 
Hmmm 'Don't Cry For Me Argentina' by Madonna ...superb from this combo. One of the few songs I like Madonna singing. She can sing delicate songs. So much emotions I'm crying for Argentina. 

 

[supersonic395]

@supersonic395
 you can bring your T1 G2 to my house on Monday and we'll find out what this Gen 2 is all about. :bigsmile_face:

Well...do you live in London?

I had to go for the Gen 2 (dat bass) as earlier I was going to get the original but the Gen 2 won out

I can't wait to pump Achilles Last Stand (amongst many many other albums) through the Elise and T1.2

And I'm also thinking to try watching some blu rays with the audio eventually running through the Elise & T1.2...I wonder what the best way to do this would be...hmm.

 

[UntilThen]

Well...do you live in London?

I had to go for the Gen 2 (dat bass) as earlier I was going to get the original but the Gen 2 won out

I can't wait to pump Achilles Last Stand (amongst many many other albums) through the Elise and T1.2

And I'm also thinking to try watching some blu rays with the audio eventually running through the Elise & T1.2...I wonder what the best way to do this would be...hmm.

London to Sydney no problem...
 
In 1985 - Feb 13
A chartered Concorde sets a new London to Sydney record of 17 hours 3 minutes.
 
You should be here in no time.
 
Achilles Last Stand by Led Zeppelin?  
 
Hmmm blue ray... perhaps you can try but I don't know if it will work. I know with the below a CD player works superb. 
blue ray player to Elise (preamp) to Amplifier to speakers or your headphone.
 
Do me a favour...before you try Elise as preamp, just listen to your T1 G2 direct from Elise and tell me what you think about dat bass... 

 

 

[supersonic395]

London to Sydney no problem...

In 1985 - Feb 13
A chartered Concorde sets a new London to Sydney record of 17 hours 3 minutes.

You should be here in no time.

Achilles Last Stand by Led Zeppelin?  

Hmmm blue ray... perhaps you can try but I don't know if it will work. I know with the below a CD player works superb. 
blue ray player to Elise (preamp) to Amplifier to speakers or your headphone.

Let me just get Richard Branson on the phone and tell him to sort me a trip to Sydney. Minor thing

Yup, Led Zeppelin! I especially like Achilles Last Stand (well I like all of their work)

Yup that sounds about right re blu rays!

Of course, I'll be listening to the T1.2 with Elise as the amp for sure. I don't plan to use it as a preamp...yet
But for sure I'll post impressions based on the vanilla Elise experience!

 

[JazzVinyl]

I have my EL3N's up and running with 5998's

Was NOT blown away immediately....but....

2 hours in (almost) and things are already opening up. They are increasing in gain. And sounding MUCH better than my initial impression (they have been asleep for 70 years, or so, after all).

Compared to 2x FDD20 and there is a BIG BIG difference.

EL3N have TONS more bass, more going on in the mids and a slightly recessed treble compared to FDD20.

Same song sounds TOTALLY different in the EL3N vs FDD20 (as tube amps do...you notice COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS in switching between these driver tubes).

Also....I like the EL3N's better via my Sennheiser 580's than I do my Beyer DT-990's and this is a first...Senn's so lonely, came close to being sold off, but oh boy...not now!

Anxious to hear what 4 hours brings...

The red paint at bottom...already coming off...it's very fragile...!!

Listening to the BEST RECORDED (sound quality wise) CD that I own:

Mark Egan's "As We Speak" (a fretless bass player) recorded in his home studio about 45 minutes west of NYC...I have written him multiple times and "Ga Ga 'ed" over the incredible "Analog Like" Sound Quality...it's Outstandingly well recorded and mastered.

http://www.amazon.com/As-We-Speak-Mark-Egan/dp/B000I6B8Z2/ref=sr_1_10?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1437839530&sr=1-10

Cheers Peeps!! And Happy 2016!!!