Feliks Audio Elise Impressions Thread – a New Start (please read first post for summary)

Mar 8, 2017 at 6:44 AM Post #7,381 of 11,833
  Well, as you can see I'm still giving the rich and full–bodied sound a good chance. I don't think I'll be disposing my EL tubes unless I listen first hand to something that touches me more in respect to my taste.

 
EL11 and EL12 has full body and tone... with a good wallop of clarity and details. This is the right recipe for HD800 and T1. Even with modded HD650 it sounds magical.
 
This is what owners of DNA Stratus are singing about and I believe we are headed in that direction with the EL tubes.
 
I tried going back to Sylvania 6sn7wgt and Chatham 6520. The sound is just a bit too soft now. :-) Back to EL11 and EL12, it's alive again. :-)  YMMV as usual.
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 7:14 AM Post #7,382 of 11,833
   
EL11 and EL12 has full body and tone... with a good wallop of clarity and details. This is the right recipe for HD800 and T1. Even with modded HD650 it sounds magical.
 
This is what owners of DNA Stratus are singing about and I believe we are headed in that direction with the EL tubes.
 
I tried going back to Sylvania 6sn7wgt and Chatham 6520. The sound is just a bit too soft now. :-) Back to EL11 and EL12, it's alive again. :-)  YMMV as usual.


I see what you mean. Yesterday "Dr Chesky's" demo sounded really great on the TF EL12spez/EL11 and today I've only listening to jazz and it sounds luscious, with great detail, soundstage, and bloom. Ahh, we'll see how it goes... For now let me just say I settled for a substitute EL12st instead of a refund! :wink:
 
#EDIT oh, and the Svets / Psvane did sound a bit wimpy by comparison, when I returned to them!
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 7:25 AM Post #7,383 of 11,833
 
I see what you mean. Yesterday "Dr Chesky's" demo sounded really great on the TF EL12spez/EL11 and today I've only listening to jazz and it sounds luscious, with great detail, soundstage, and bloom. Ahh, we'll see how it goes... For now let me just say I settled for a substitute EL12st instead of a refund! :wink:
 
#EDIT oh, and the Svets / Psvane did sound a bit wimpy by comparison, when I returned to th

As H1 said Elise bias needs to settle in and so too does the electrical bias in our brains, which are full of electricity and so must have a bias point too. 
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Mar 8, 2017 at 10:18 AM Post #7,385 of 11,833
  Listening to this now on Tidal HD Masters. Schitt Bimby/Elise/HD800S - MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN
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Did you actually see Tidal HD Masters when you're listening to that track even though your dac doesn't support MQA? 
 
I only see Tidal HiFi on mine.
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 10:36 AM Post #7,386 of 11,833
   
Did you actually see Tidal HD Masters when you're listening to that track even though your dac doesn't support MQA? 
 
I only see Tidal HiFi on mine.


In order to see Masters on Tidal I go to What's New and one of the choices for albums is Masters. And they play fine for me.
 
During the first 10 years of digital I thought CDs were poor. Since then either the world has changed, I have changed or my pet Octopus has magical powers. Redbook CD quality is more than adequate for my listening enjoyment, and I personally believe the quality of the original recording is the most important thing. So I don't pay much attention to sampling rate and that kind of thing. As I understand it MQA should play fine on any DAC and offers something like double the sampling rate of Redbook, but (all other things being equal) should offer even better quality with an MQA enabled DAC. That's about all I know.
 
To me the Masters sound better than the normal albums on Tidal, but that may just be placebo. So far I understand that Schiit hasn't embraced MQA, but at some point I'd love to try an MQA enabled DAC.
 
Edit:  I guess I should add that I use the Tidal App and don't access it with my normal browser Firefox.
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 10:38 AM Post #7,387 of 11,833
  As H1 said Elise bias needs to settle in and so too does the electrical bias in our brains, which are full of electricity and so must have a bias point too. 
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You are not wrong. At the hospital, the doctor told me that electrical impulses cause the muscles in our heart to contract. With each contraction, blood is pumped throughout the body.
 
So with your tube amp in close proximity to you and headphone strap on your head, I'm sure your heart will beat faster with the rhythm and beats of your music. Forget about toe tapping now. Visualise your heart pumping now when you're particularly moved by a musical experience.
 
Hope all this makes sense.  
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Mar 8, 2017 at 10:44 AM Post #7,388 of 11,833
 
In order to see Masters on Tidal I go to What's New and one of the choices for albums is Masters. And they play fine for me.
 

 
Thanks !!! 
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  I'm now listening to Coldplay 'A head full of dreams' and it DOES sound a lot more dynamic. Incredible. I like MQA already.
 
Ah Michael Buble sounds so much better now. Masters does sound so much better even without an MQA enabled dac.
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Post #7,389 of 11,833
 
#EDIT oh, and the Svets / Psvane did sound a bit wimpy by comparison, when I returned to them!

 
Easy Ang. By the time you become familiar with all the tubes and your ears grow to like them, you'll forget your once top of the chart stock tubes Psvane and Svetlana. 
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Mar 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Post #7,390 of 11,833
   
You are not wrong. At the hospital, the doctor told me that electrical impulses cause the muscles in our heart to contract. With each contraction, blood is pumped throughout the body.
 
So with your tube amp in close proximity to you and headphone strap on your head, I'm sure your heart will beat faster with the rhythm and beats of your music. Forget about toe tapping now. Visualise your heart pumping now when you're particularly moved by a musical experience.
 
Hope all this makes sense.  
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Nothing makes sense to me, and hasn't for the past 70 years or so.
 
But never forget:
 

 
Mar 8, 2017 at 10:57 AM Post #7,391 of 11,833
   
You are not wrong. At the hospital, the doctor told me that electrical impulses cause the muscles in our heart to contract. With each contraction, blood is pumped throughout the body.
 
So with your tube amp in close proximity to you and headphone strap on your head, I'm sure your heart will beat faster with the rhythm and beats of your music. Forget about toe tapping now. Visualise your heart pumping now when you're particularly moved by a musical experience.
 
Hope all this makes sense.  
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Awesome-that explains why quiet soothing music sends me to sleep and exciting music keeps me awake all night.
Sorry to learn you are having tests.
Hope you are feeling better soon.
 
Mar 8, 2017 at 11:02 AM Post #7,392 of 11,833
  Awesome-that explains why quiet soothing music sends me to sleep and exciting music keeps me awake all night.
Sorry to learn you are having tests.
Hope you are feeling better soon.

 
Thanks Howie. I don't know why I needed all the tests that took one whole night at emergency. 
 
You see, a person normal heart beat at rest is 60 to 100. Mine was going at 117 so the doc send me to hospital. It's all settle now. I really think it's all due to news of Euforia shipping. 
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Mar 8, 2017 at 11:10 AM Post #7,393 of 11,833
   
Thanks Howie. I don't know why I needed all the tests that took one whole night at emergency. 
 
You see, a person normal heart beat at rest is 60 to 100. Mine was going at 117 so the doc send me to hospital. It's all settle now. I really think it's all due to news of Euforia shipping. 
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You are indispensable to all of us. So I have enlisted a special angel to watch over you:
 

 
Mar 8, 2017 at 11:11 AM Post #7,394 of 11,833
   
Thanks Howie. I don't know why I needed all the tests that took one whole night at emergency. 
 
You see, a person normal heart beat at rest is 60 to 100. Mine was going at 117 so the doc send me to hospital. It's all settle now. I really think it's all due to news of Euforia shipping. 
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Definitely due to anticipation of Euforia-and maybe the Herculean labour of love you have ahead of you evaluating all the amps for us.
 
Perhaps de-caffeinated tea and coffee for the next few weeks would be best.
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Mar 8, 2017 at 11:18 AM Post #7,395 of 11,833
 
You are indispensable to all of us. So I have enlisted a special angel to watch over you:
 

 
I'm not indispensable but how sweet of you. :-)
 
I was listening to this song by Michael Buble on Tidal Masters and it was lovely. So here it is to share with everyone. 
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