F*&KING copyright protected cd's!!!
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Worst case scenario is to use Total Recorder. As long as you can play the CD, you can record it to any format (wav, lossless, lossy). It works by directly recording the output from the soundcard. So until the soundcard features hardware copyright protection, the software protection can easliy be bypassed.
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But this would depend on how good your soundcard is. And as far as I know there is no soundcard that reproduce perfect cd quality sound (correct me if I'm wrong
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| Originally Posted by notnormal Worst case scenario is to use Total Recorder. As long as you can play the CD, you can record it to any format (wav, lossless, lossy). It works by directly recording the output from the soundcard. So until the soundcard features hardware copyright protection, the software protection can easliy be bypassed. |
But this would depend on how good your soundcard is. And as far as I know there is no soundcard that reproduce perfect cd quality sound (correct me if I'm wrong
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i'll admit this, i will buy music i want in CD, the moment they start inplementing copy protection that is either too much trouble to bypass or causes degration in SQ, i will either download it or buy bootleg copies since the original sound like crap anyway.
i dont think these "CD" meets Redbook requirements, so they aren't CDs, so what kinda rubbish are these labels selling to us?
i dont think these "CD" meets Redbook requirements, so they aren't CDs, so what kinda rubbish are these labels selling to us?
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On Saturday, I went to a record store and to my horror, I found that the latest batch of Blue Note CDs (both new material and re-issues) now have copy protection!!
One has to wonder what the record companies are thinking. I am doubtful that there is hell of a lot of illegal bootlegging of jazz or classical CDS - most of the people I know that listen to these genres are WILLING to pay good money for a high-fidelity CD.
I was really turned off and as a result didn't buy these new Blue Note discs. If I can't rip them, I ain't gonna buy them.
One has to wonder what the record companies are thinking. I am doubtful that there is hell of a lot of illegal bootlegging of jazz or classical CDS - most of the people I know that listen to these genres are WILLING to pay good money for a high-fidelity CD.
I was really turned off and as a result didn't buy these new Blue Note discs. If I can't rip them, I ain't gonna buy them.
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What cd is it?
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System Of A Down? Audioslave? Velvet Revolver?
| -metal? Name me one good popular nu-metal band. |
System Of A Down? Audioslave? Velvet Revolver?
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There are plenty of Pro-Audio Sound Cards that can. But they are not cheap.
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| Originally Posted by YamiTenshi But this would depend on how good your soundcard is. And as far as I know there is no soundcard that reproduce perfect cd quality sound (correct me if I'm wrong
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There are plenty of Pro-Audio Sound Cards that can. But they are not cheap.
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Sorry, let me re-qualify that. The program acts as the soundcard driver. Thus any signals that are being sent to the driver can be recorded by Total Recorder. The soundcard itself does not matter. What I previously meant by output is the raw signal.
So say someone were to use a realplayer internet radio stream. Real player would decode the stream and send it in its raw form to the soundcard to output. Total Recorder acts as the soundcard driver (intercepting the raw signal and sending it to the actual soundcard drivers) and can output the signal in a form chosen by the user (wav,mp3,flac,etc). Heck you don't even need a soundcard for this to work.
| Originally Posted by YamiTenshi But this would depend on how good your soundcard is. And as far as I know there is no soundcard that reproduce perfect cd quality sound (correct me if I'm wrong
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Sorry, let me re-qualify that. The program acts as the soundcard driver. Thus any signals that are being sent to the driver can be recorded by Total Recorder. The soundcard itself does not matter. What I previously meant by output is the raw signal.
So say someone were to use a realplayer internet radio stream. Real player would decode the stream and send it in its raw form to the soundcard to output. Total Recorder acts as the soundcard driver (intercepting the raw signal and sending it to the actual soundcard drivers) and can output the signal in a form chosen by the user (wav,mp3,flac,etc). Heck you don't even need a soundcard for this to work.
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From my experience Blue Note Records and "high-fidelity CD" should not be mentioned within the same draw of breath, but principally you are right. On the other hand you should not underestimate the amount of people who will copy whatever comes their way, though you are less likely to find them in a place like Head-Fi. Currently I am shiftinig away from buying major labels. There is really interesting independent stuff out there (say for example The Decemberists), and labels who actually put an emphasis the quality of their product (such as Linn, Telarc, Chesky, Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab) simply habe no CC on their discs, my approval of which I express by buying their stuff almost exclusively at this time.
Nevertheless, the next time I come across some disc I want that is not available without CP I might actually buy it. And then return it and ask for a new one. And then return that one again. In Germany there was a case where the record company would give out the Hybrid SACD version of an album to all those people who complained about the CPd "CD". So go give them trouble. Not buying the discs will not mean much impact since there is enough other idiots who buy & keep them. Return the product, it does not comply to CDDA but is sold among CDDA. Make a fuss. And get a Mac while all those pesky CP schemes are still ignored by OS X, a feature that might vanish with the advent of Intel-based Macs.
| Originally Posted by Jubei On Saturday, I went to a record store and to my horror, I found that the latest batch of Blue Note CDs (both new material and re-issues) now have copy protection!! One has to wonder what the record companies are thinking. I am doubtful that there is hell of a lot of illegal bootlegging of jazz or classical CDS - most of the people I know that listen to these genres are WILLING to pay good money for a high-fidelity CD. I was really turned off and as a result didn't buy these new Blue Note discs. If I can't rip them, I ain't gonna buy them. |
From my experience Blue Note Records and "high-fidelity CD" should not be mentioned within the same draw of breath, but principally you are right. On the other hand you should not underestimate the amount of people who will copy whatever comes their way, though you are less likely to find them in a place like Head-Fi. Currently I am shiftinig away from buying major labels. There is really interesting independent stuff out there (say for example The Decemberists), and labels who actually put an emphasis the quality of their product (such as Linn, Telarc, Chesky, Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab) simply habe no CC on their discs, my approval of which I express by buying their stuff almost exclusively at this time.
Nevertheless, the next time I come across some disc I want that is not available without CP I might actually buy it. And then return it and ask for a new one. And then return that one again. In Germany there was a case where the record company would give out the Hybrid SACD version of an album to all those people who complained about the CPd "CD". So go give them trouble. Not buying the discs will not mean much impact since there is enough other idiots who buy & keep them. Return the product, it does not comply to CDDA but is sold among CDDA. Make a fuss. And get a Mac while all those pesky CP schemes are still ignored by OS X, a feature that might vanish with the advent of Intel-based Macs.
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I find it pretty amazing that some people still support the record industries.
Not only have they been fixing the prices of CDs for over a decade(and even after they got in trouble for it, they continued to do it!), screwing the artist out of their share of the money and legally tearing the artist away from rights to their own music, but now they're stealing music from their own customers.
Not only have they been fixing the prices of CDs for over a decade(and even after they got in trouble for it, they continued to do it!), screwing the artist out of their share of the money and legally tearing the artist away from rights to their own music, but now they're stealing music from their own customers.
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I've been lucky so far, but still keeping my eyes open for CP releases. Like others here, I would never intentionally buy one of these as most of my listening is from the rips on my portable players.
If you're in the market for a new optical drive, read some reviews at cdrinfo.com....as they track different brand's performance in overcoming some of this stuff. I've done OK with autorun disabled and a Pioneer 105s dvd rom drive.
If you're in the market for a new optical drive, read some reviews at cdrinfo.com....as they track different brand's performance in overcoming some of this stuff. I've done OK with autorun disabled and a Pioneer 105s dvd rom drive.
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I have given up on buying cds for the same reason listed above. But I wanted better quality then limewire or Ares. I download from AllOfMp3
at 320 AAC. I can't say this is the best answer but I can't see paying $1 for song or 10 dollars for just downloading a whole album. On top of this they put copy protection information in the song if download from any other site.
at 320 AAC. I can't say this is the best answer but I can't see paying $1 for song or 10 dollars for just downloading a whole album. On top of this they put copy protection information in the song if download from any other site.
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Not really. You're assuming that I don't listen to popular music just because it's popular, and in let's say 10 years I'll go back to it and say "man, this stuff is great!" simply because I no longer have to be a conformist in order to listen to it.
I don't work like that. I listen to stuff I like, and being a professionally trained musician, I can tell the good from the bad.
What I'm complaining about isn't the over-arching morass of popular junk, but the total lack of talent that also has any degree of popularity. I haven't seen a popular musical movement in the last 10 years that has produced quality, well known artists. I'm talking about US-based media here, obviously, in Europe and Israel especially electronic music has been making headway and has produced some very good artists.
| Originally Posted by Csidinim That view is sort of naive and uninformed, no? There always was and has been popular junk music dominating over more refined, quality creations. And you may not see the characterizing trends of the present too easily, because you are still existing in it, you are being shaped and colored by it. You glorify the past with such nostalgic rage, but in about thirty years you will say the same thing about the present's present as you said about the present's past. Hindsight is always 20/20 and through a very biased lens. |
Not really. You're assuming that I don't listen to popular music just because it's popular, and in let's say 10 years I'll go back to it and say "man, this stuff is great!" simply because I no longer have to be a conformist in order to listen to it.
I don't work like that. I listen to stuff I like, and being a professionally trained musician, I can tell the good from the bad.
What I'm complaining about isn't the over-arching morass of popular junk, but the total lack of talent that also has any degree of popularity. I haven't seen a popular musical movement in the last 10 years that has produced quality, well known artists. I'm talking about US-based media here, obviously, in Europe and Israel especially electronic music has been making headway and has produced some very good artists.
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