[Jaska]

I'm about to buy some ER-4S IEMs. However, one of the main reasons for doing this is to ensure absolutely private listening. I know the isolation will be more than adequate from external sounds, but for anyone who owns the ER-4S (or ER-4P for that matter), can you comment on whether anyone is able to perceive that you're even listening to music when these things are buried in your ear canals? I'd hate to spend the cabbage only to find that my wife still complains about the noise during late night listening.

 

[AudioJunkie]

No leakage at all.

 

[smeggy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by AudioJunkie /img/forum/go_quote.gif No leakage at all.

Ditto.

 

[mrsmr2]

I think it will depends on which sleeve is being used and the volume. I could hear leakage from a friend's ER-4Ps with the triple flange sleeves on. Mind you, he did have the volume turned up loud!

He was trying out my D2 and had the volume at 36 (of 50). As a comparison, I rarely listen to it higher than 20 with my E4Gs - so it was very loud.

I doubt there is any leakage with the foam sleeves and/or at normal listening levels.

 

[swmtnbiker]

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsmr2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think it will depends on which sleeve is being used and the volume. I could hear leakage from a friend's ER-4Ps with the triple flange sleeves on. Mind you, he did have the volume turned up loud!.

If you could actually hear leakage from your friend's ER-4P, no matter WHAT tips he's using, I'd wager that he's already suffered permanent hearing damage. Unless you have your ear pressed right up against his, and at dangerous dB levels for the listener, you should hear absolutely *nothing*.

 

[roastpuff]

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpippel /img/forum/go_quote.gif If you could actually hear leakage from your friend's ER-4P, no matter WHAT tips he's using, I'd wager that he's already suffered permanent hearing damage. Unless you have your ear pressed right up against his, and at dangerous dB levels for the listener, you should hear absolutely *nothing*.

QFT. No leakage whatsoever with ER4P.

 

[vberch]

I can't imagine any leakage with the ER4S'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaska /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm about to buy some ER-4S IEMs. However, one of the main reasons for doing this is to ensure absolutely private listening. I know the isolation will be more than adequate from external sounds, but for anyone who owns the ER-4S (or ER-4P for that matter), can you comment on whether anyone is able to perceive that you're even listening to music when these things are buried in your ear canals? I'd hate to spend the cabbage only to find that my wife still complains about the noise during late night listening.

 

[sillz10]

how would u know there is leakage enless you asked some1 else? and i assume every1 listens to their headphones loud and IS going to suffer hearing loss eventually because of it (according to those government standards).

 

[roastpuff]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sillz10 /img/forum/go_quote.gif how would u know there is leakage enless you asked some1 else? and i assume every1 listens to their headphones loud and IS going to suffer hearing loss eventually because of it (according to those government standards).

The design of the ER4's, in that they are inside the ear canal, makes sure that any leakage that would be there is extremely minimal. And the purpose of an IEM is to keep the listening volume DOWN by minimizing the outside noise that you have to drown out.

And a lot of people actually listen to their music at a very low level using IEM's and audiophile headphones. Loudness isn't the defining quality of most of the headphones listed here, after all.

 

[Chrysoberyl]

Zero leakage,nada de nada...

 

[Nebby]

No leakage with my ER-4S. IMO, if you can hear leakage from a properly inserted ety, that person is probably experiencing hearing damage

 

[mrsmr2]

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpippel /img/forum/go_quote.gif If you could actually hear leakage from your friend's ER-4P, no matter WHAT tips he's using, I'd wager that he's already suffered permanent hearing damage. Unless you have your ear pressed right up against his, and at dangerous dB levels for the listener, you should hear absolutely *nothing*.

Ha ha.

Well, I nearly blew my ears off when I borrowed it back from him as it was still at the same volume level - it was loud!

It's possible the flanges were not in his ears deep enough.

 

[crazyface]

Eww! You shared earwax?

I would not let my friends try them for that reason. I don't want to have my friends' earwax in my head.

 

[b1gben83]

I will echo the same sentiments: no leakage. if you can hear what you're friend is listening to then odds are he can't hear you anymore.

 

[MaloS]

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1gben83 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I will echo the same sentiments: no leakage. if you can hear what you're friend is listening to then odds are he can't hear you anymore.

either that or crappy fit. very crappy fit.