[F208Frank]

Wh do you guys think the used prices on these units are so damn low? I saw powerman AND formula S being listed for 3k...

Confused.

 

[eskamobob1]

Wh do you guys think the used prices on these units are so damn low? I saw powerman AND formula S being listed for 3k...

It's just the current market tbh. Sus has been 4k used for years but people needing stuff gone fast along with a slower moving market means I've seen several sell just over 3k and know of one under that. Tbh, I think everything is taking a hit right now.

That said, tbh, I think 3.5k is pretty fair for the combo performance wise, but they obviously have sold a bit over that for a while

 

[deuter]

Wh do you guys think the used prices on these units are so damn low? I saw powerman AND formula S being listed for 3k...

Confused.

It’s a bargain for $3 k, it’s a wonderful amp well designed.
It’s like a well prepared dish.
Works extremely Weill with the Abyss and also my Grado’s.

 

[You Kay]

Current market is dire. I’ve never seen it this bad. And people are desperate for money so they are devaluing the products by selling them for very low prices.

 

[You Kay]

anyone know what fuse spec the sagra uses for 220V?

Did you get an answer to this?

 

[eskamobob1]

Did you get an answer to this?

No, I never did

 

[jlbrach]

supply and demand, it is a great amp combo...at anywhere near 3k it is a great deal

 

[DJJEZ]

Selling my formula s and powerman, located in the UK.

Will ship worldwide and also Open to offers.

https://www.head-fi.org/classifieds/xi-audio-formula-s-powerman.40370/

 

[You Kay]

It’s a bargain for $3 k, it’s a wonderful amp well designed.
It’s like a well prepared dish.
Works extremely Weill with the Abyss and also my Grado’s.

How do the grados compare to the 1266 from the Formula S. I recently sold my 1266. Wish I hadn’t.

 

[Slim1970]

How do the grados compare to the 1266 from the Formula S. I recently sold my 1266. Wish I hadn’t.

They don't, if I'm being honest. Almost every Grado I've heard and owned has subpar bass. This is something the AB-1266 excel at.

 

[deuter]

How do the grados compare to the 1266 from the Formula S. I recently sold my 1266. Wish I hadn’t.

Nothing that I can complain about. The Formula S is a wonderful amp and the Grado just shine playing through them.

 

[You Kay]

They don't, if I'm being honest. Almost every Grado I've heard and owned has subpar bass. This is something the AB-1266 excel at.

Thanks for your feedback. Although I think any headphone no matter how cheap compares to any other. Same with speakers. This consensus that the more expensive products blow away budget alternatives isn’t the way I hear it at all.

I’ve owned speakers costing a few hundred pounds that have been more enjoyable than another costing 10k. So I do believe a cheap grado can be fun when compared to ‘summit fi’ headphones.

 

[eskamobob1]

Thanks for your feedback. Although I think any headphone no matter how cheap compares to any other. Same with speakers. This consensus that the more expensive products blow away budget alternatives isn’t the way I hear it at all.

I’ve owned speakers costing a few hundred pounds that have been more enjoyable than another costing 10k. So I do believe a cheap grado can be fun when compared to ‘summit fi’ headphones.

Meh. Its all about your personal perspective. I also agree that more expensive doesn't mean better, but tbh, certain levels of performance do often cost certain amounts (for example, sus detail + tonal balance is not a package that can be had in a can/IEM sub 3k IME). While all of audio is about "what level of diminishing returns are you ok paying for" IMO, if you are basically at all about technicalities, i agree that grado just doesn't compete with 1266. Same if you place a heavy emphasis on bass qty. They are diametrically opposed cans with completely different goals. outside of getting a general concept of tonality, I would agree that comparing them doesn't make a ton of sense even if you go for somethin like PS2000e (havent heard HP1000 to comment on that)

 

[You Kay]

Meh. Its all about your personal perspective. I also agree that more expensive doesn't mean better, but tbh, certain levels of performance do often cost certain amounts (for example, sus detail + tonal balance is not a package that can be had in a can/IEM sub 3k IME). While all of audio is about "what level of diminishing returns are you ok paying for" IMO, if you are basically at all about technicalities, i agree that grado just doesn't compete with 1266. Same if you place a heavy emphasis on bass qty. They are diametrically opposed cans with completely different goals. outside of getting a general concept of tonality, I would agree that comparing them doesn't make a ton of sense even if you go for somethin like PS2000e (havent heard HP1000 to comment on that)

Sure, each headphone has its own signature and different drivers are more technically competent but your comment could be interpreted by another reader differently.

‘it doesn’t’ (compare) with regards to 1266 and grado to me reads like one is vastly superior which I’m sorry it isn’t. Having owned both at different times I would certainly compare them.

 

[eskamobob1]

‘it doesn’t’ (compare) with regards to 1266 and grado to me reads like one is vastly superior which I’m sorry it isn’t. Having owned both at different times I would certainly compare them.

And that's a fine take, but it isn't the one of the person who responded to you (or mine) and that's also ok