E1DA DACs Discussion Thread (PDV2, 9038S, 9038D, 9038X, HiFiToy, HPToy)
Dec 10, 2020 at 1:29 PM Post #1,067 of 1,482
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My #9038 stack and PowerDAC V2
 
Dec 10, 2020 at 2:17 PM Post #1,068 of 1,482
Dec 11, 2020 at 2:39 AM Post #1,070 of 1,482
comparison please,
9038s vs Lotoo S1 ?

thank you so much,
 
Dec 11, 2020 at 2:46 AM Post #1,071 of 1,482
Where I can buy the 9038X ?
I don’t think there’s any model x yet


comparison please,
9038s vs Lotoo S1 ?

thank you so much,

Both have something, lotoo has a warmer signature and it’s easier to drive, the eq presets ain’t mind blowing but are quite right, volume control come straight from the dongle. High and low gain are quite something, specially if you’ve got a sensitive pair, though efi noise it’s quite high on the lotoo
9038 has a way more neutral sound with exquisite details in the mids and highs, bass is quite controlled and soundstage can be holographic with some iems, volume comes from the source device, I haven’t ever had any efi problems with it, with bassy iems I prefer way more thins one
 
Dec 13, 2020 at 3:57 PM Post #1,073 of 1,482
Wow


Wow... Which one you like most?

I can't tell the difference sonically. They all sound the same. I like the tweaking options of the G3, D and the PowerDAC.

Where did you get the heatsink for the PDV2? Are you able to leave it on all the time?

Off of eBay, and cut it into correct dimensions.
 
Dec 15, 2020 at 4:44 PM Post #1,074 of 1,482
Today I received the E1DA 9038D, it took only 8 days to get from China to Spain, quite a record!

I listened to it a bit and then made some measurements. I am not completely satisfied with them. When empty it reaches almost 3V. I tried with a resistance of 15 Ohms and almost gave the 120mW specified, my measurements gave 110mW, not bad. However, at 33 Ohms it was not so good. The best measurement, with no visible distortion, gave about 2.1V at 1kHz. Turning up the volume, the curve became saturated. I checked if the measurement was consistent with another multimeter, which even measured less voltage. Well, I will rely on my small and cheap oscilloscope. But 2.1V gives 130mw and not 180mW specified (that would be 2.4V).
Of course, the measurement was stable over the entire audible range, which confirms that the frequency response is flat even at the limit of its power.

The measurements were made with the Tweak_9038D_C.hex firmware and with the 9038D configured at 0dB.

Is there something wrong with my measurement methods? I don't know...

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Dec 15, 2020 at 10:54 PM Post #1,075 of 1,482
Today I received the E1DA 9038D, it took only 8 days to get from China to Spain, quite a record!

I listened to it a bit and then made some measurements. I am not completely satisfied with them. When empty it reaches almost 3V. I tried with a resistance of 15 Ohms and almost gave the 120mW specified, my measurements gave 110mW, not bad. However, at 33 Ohms it was not so good. The best measurement, with no visible distortion, gave about 2.1V at 1kHz. Turning up the volume, the curve became saturated. I checked if the measurement was consistent with another multimeter, which even measured less voltage. Well, I will rely on my small and cheap oscilloscope. But 2.1V gives 130mw and not 180mW specified (that would be 2.4V).
Of course, the measurement was stable over the entire audible range, which confirms that the frequency response is flat even at the limit of its power.

The measurements were made with the Tweak_9038D_C.hex firmware and with the 9038D configured at 0dB.

Is there something wrong with my measurement methods? I don't know...

Pretty cool! If you haven’t already, you might want to post over on the ASR website as you may find others there as well who could give feedback and suggestions.
 
Dec 16, 2020 at 2:10 AM Post #1,076 of 1,482
Pretty cool! If you haven’t already, you might want to post over on the ASR website as you may find others there as well who could give feedback and suggestions.
Yes, thank you for the recommendation, perhaps it would be more appropriate.
Greetings.
 
Dec 16, 2020 at 11:07 AM Post #1,078 of 1,482
Upon reading up on both Mojo and E1DA, I might just go for the E1DA. Just waiting on amirm over at audiosciencereview to properly test it.

Still, if someone happens to have paired Andromedas with any of the E1DA models, I'd be happy to hear about your experience.
I have the mojo and sold out the e1da. Despite being similar on spec, sound wise they sound vastly different. E1da has a neutral presentation with even frequency response. But it lacks body in midbass like odac or the topping dacs. Mojo is more detailed, has tones more of micro details. Instrument separation is similar on both. E1da slightly has wider soundstage. The mojo is noticeably more 3D. Layering of instruments and timbre of instruments is spot on. But highs are bit rolled off. To me the immediately noticeable quality of mojo is it’s very smooth analogue like sound. No digital glare of any kind. Just like listening to a vinyl. This is unlike of any dac possible under 500 bucks. Measurements won’t tell you this. Just lend a mojo and E1da from someone. Mojo is no way beaten by it. It’s good for the price but nowhere near as mojo
 
Dec 16, 2020 at 11:20 AM Post #1,079 of 1,482
To me the immediately noticeable quality of mojo is it’s very smooth analogue like sound. No digital glare of any kind. Just like listening to a vinyl. This is unlike of any dac possible under 500 bucks.
Imo that's ironic though. Mojo is as digital as it gets. FPGA-programmed up/oversampling, with gate-array powered D/A conversion. Nothing analogue about that, haha :D

I read many reports of people comparing Khadas Tone Board favourably to Mojo though. YMMV.
 
Dec 16, 2020 at 11:43 AM Post #1,080 of 1,482
I have the mojo and sold out the e1da. Despite being similar on spec, sound wise they sound vastly different. E1da has a neutral presentation with even frequency response. But it lacks body in midbass like odac or the topping dacs. Mojo is more detailed, has tones more of micro details. Instrument separation is similar on both. E1da slightly has wider soundstage. The mojo is noticeably more 3D. Layering of instruments and timbre of instruments is spot on. But highs are bit rolled off. To me the immediately noticeable quality of mojo is it’s very smooth analogue like sound. No digital glare of any kind. Just like listening to a vinyl. This is unlike of any dac possible under 500 bucks. Measurements won’t tell you this. Just lend a mojo and E1da from someone. Mojo is no way beaten by it. It’s good for the price but nowhere near as mojo
E1DA 9038S or E1DA 9038D ?

I still don't understand if they differ in any way in sound.
 

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