E1DA DACs Discussion Thread (PDV2, 9038S, 9038D, 9038X, HiFiToy, HPToy)
May 15, 2020 at 8:29 AM Post #707 of 1,483
What about the sudden max volume white noise explosions?
 
May 15, 2020 at 10:35 AM Post #710 of 1,483
Separation, detail extraction and imaging were stellar on Gen 2, I just liked the fuller body on PDV2 and tubey veneer it gave to music finally.
May pick up Gen 3 anyway, support this groovy little company.
 
May 15, 2020 at 10:39 AM Post #711 of 1,483
I didn't know the previous amp use but for the Gen 3 it uses AD8397 OP-Amps.
Same chips from memory...wish he went for OPA1622, better to my ears A/B'ing them on another ES9038Q2M DAC/amp that could switch amp chips easily.
 
May 15, 2020 at 12:05 PM Post #712 of 1,483
Separation, detail extraction and imaging were stellar on Gen 2, I just liked the fuller body on PDV2 and tubey veneer it gave to music finally.
May pick up Gen 3 anyway, support this groovy little company.

Same here, I love the special effects that the PDV2 can give. It does more than just have EQ settings.

Though it gets complicated having to merge presets and stuff.
 
May 15, 2020 at 12:42 PM Post #713 of 1,483
Can't agree more with the sentiment over pdv2, I find myself liking the 'tube effect' over the sound using it while I'm relaxing with HD800 and don't wish music too be too much in my face.
All the added support and bug fix of the 9038S G3 make it even more attractive and hopefully soon 9038D will be also out.
 
May 15, 2020 at 3:53 PM Post #714 of 1,483
I think I will stick with my 9038s gen 2 version for a while. I have a new toy coming - 1x Lotoo PAW S1 Portable USB DAC-Amp - and depending on how I get along with that I’ll decide about the gen 3. If they fixed the issue with the sound blasting suddenly when the usb connection is jostled that would be a big plus.
 
May 15, 2020 at 4:15 PM Post #715 of 1,483
It is fixed..

here is the pinned List from the discord from static:
-highlights are: 32/384 and native DSD256
UAC2 hardware volume
no more sound explosions,
very stable USB connection
greatly reduced EMI
standby mode: reduced power consumption when music is stopped
new, black enclosure with laser-etched logos
modes are replaced with an App to fully control DAC parameters (coming soon) (No EQ) objective sound performance (SNR, THD+N,...) increased slightly
 
May 15, 2020 at 7:55 PM Post #716 of 1,483
It is fixed..

here is the pinned List from the discord from static:
-highlights are: 32/384 and native DSD256
UAC2 hardware volume
no more sound explosions,
very stable USB connection
greatly reduced EMI
standby mode: reduced power consumption when music is stopped
new, black enclosure with laser-etched logos
modes are replaced with an App to fully control DAC parameters (coming soon) (No EQ) objective sound performance (SNR, THD+N,...) increased slightly
Thank you! What is UAC2 hardware volume?
 
May 16, 2020 at 6:39 AM Post #718 of 1,483
Anyone know how the Cirrus Logic CS43198-CNZ DAC chips stacks up against the pretty stellar ES9038Q2M ?
 
May 16, 2020 at 7:33 AM Post #719 of 1,483
It usually matters on how the whole package is made. The chip won't determine the final quality.

Though alot of my portable products I have liked in the past have a tendency to be cirrus logic products.....but that doesn't guarantee anything.
 
May 16, 2020 at 7:50 PM Post #720 of 1,483
It usually matters on how the whole package is made. The chip won't determine the final quality.

Though alot of my portable products I have liked in the past have a tendency to be cirrus logic products.....but that doesn't guarantee anything.
I like the Wolfson chips in my FiiO DAC/amps but the Cirrus Logic in my old G5 Mac sound also very good.

Don't need higher resolution than 16bit/44.1k as AIFF or FLAC anyway.
 

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