DX50 a new smaller DAP from iBasso. Spec. page 1. Impressions start on page. . .

Aug 18, 2013 at 8:45 PM Post #2,131 of 3,609
I received the email confirmation from ibasso saying 'the dx50 is designed to sound awesome and awesome only' LoL
Just one more day, guys... Not sure if they r operating in the GMT+8 timezone...
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM Post #2,132 of 3,609
299 Euro... That's a bit more than what i expected... if it can reach the same level of stability in terms of UI, OS, build quality etc as AK100, I will buy it without hesitation... DAPs like 901, dx100 are absolutely junk.


If you think the dx100 and hm901 sound like "junk" then expect even worse from the dx50........ nvm, just realized you were talking about build, os, etc. my bad
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 8:54 PM Post #2,133 of 3,609
I received the email confirmation from ibasso saying 'the dx50 is designed to sound awesome and awesome only' LoL
Just one more day, guys... Not sure if they r operating in the GMT+8 timezone...


Hahaha, that is the funniest line iBasso can make. I am so bloody excited, I think this dap will knock some socks off, I better go bare foot. :D
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 8:54 PM Post #2,134 of 3,609
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I received the email confirmation from ibasso saying 'the dx50 is designed to sound awesome and awesome only' LoL
Just one more day, guys... Not sure if they r operating in the GMT+8 timezone...

Quite a bold statement from ibasso. 
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 9:08 PM Post #2,136 of 3,609
DX100=ToTL DAP from iBasso. If you weren't happy with the Dx100's BQ, then their mid level DAP definitely won't be up to your exacting standards.

 
what an appalling logic you are basically saying the BQ of ibasso dap is not improvable whatsoever, for if one is not happy with dx100 which was designed few years ago should walk away spontaneously from dx50. whatever BQ or UI issue of dx100 that are uninviting should exist in dx50 for THIS IS IBASSO and they could never keep abreast of advacement of technology. you sound like an avid fan of ibasso, but this is how you defend them? the thing is, is it really that hard for these chinese audiophile dap manufacturers to improve these objective aspects of their products in stead of constantly boasting the subjective notion - "sound quality"? Therefore, it would be either a shame or an intended scam for ibasso not to improve these deficiencies to make dx50 more portable.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 9:47 PM Post #2,138 of 3,609
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what an appalling logicyou are basically saying the BQ of ibasso dap is not improvable whatsoever, for if one is not happy with dx100 which was designed few years ago should walk away spontaneously from dx50. whatever BQ or UI issue of dx100 that are uninviting should exist in dx50 for THIS IS IBASSO and they could never keep abreast of advacement of technology.you sound like an avid fan of ibasso, but this is how you defend them?the thing is, is it really that hard for these chinese audiophile dap manufacturers to improve these objective aspects of their products in stead of constantly boasting the subjective notion - "sound quality"? Therefore, it would be either a shame or an intended scam for ibasso not to improve these deficiencies to make dx50 more portable.

 
Most of these companies have never had very good UI support for their DAPs. Although they are gradually improving. What has always sold them is indeed based on sound quality. People who appreciate sound more than convenience will deal with the UI issues. Those who don't can stick with apple or sandisk. The sound quality won't be up to snuff but you get the convenience.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 11:00 PM Post #2,143 of 3,609
I think the problem is most of these manufacturers in China use crappy rockchip which is proprietary and they don't offer much support at all to their own products. Not very good support that is. That's why the DX100 was plagued with so many issues because they had to deal with rockchip implementing the fixes to my knowledge. Ever since the Sflo2 I've had 0 confidence in rockchip.
 
 
Aug 19, 2013 at 12:21 AM Post #2,144 of 3,609
Aug 19, 2013 at 12:37 AM Post #2,145 of 3,609
Based on your use of grammar and display of your abysmal reading comprehension skills, I shall assume that English is your second language and that your comment was a result of a simple misunderstanding. However, if this is not the case, I will, in the following paragraph, attempt to explain my statement and dissect your "appalling logic."

"you are basically saying the BQ of ibasso dap is not improvable whatsoever"

I don't have a single clue where you may have picked up that absurd idea. I merely hypothesized that it would not be fair to assume a mid-level product would have significantly better build quality than its top of the line predecessor released less than a year prior. I know that build quality does improve over time as competition drives higher consumer expectations and new manufacturing techniques are implemented. Yet iBasso has announced no further advances in their manufacturing process and, from what I've seen, build quality has, for the last few years, almost stagnated. It would make sense for iBasso to attempt to improve upon their build quality to remain competitive, but with the current competition not faring any better (namely the Fiio X3 at the moment), such efforts would be wasted.

"if one is not happy with dx100 which was designed few years ago should walk away spontaneously from dx50"

Walking away "spontaneously" would be to do so without reason. Dissatisfactory build quality would certainly be a reason for "walking away" if it does not match others in its class. While the DX50 and AK100 may be on par sonically, one must keep in mind that the two are marketed to two different groups of the audiophile community. The former is attempting to be everyman's high end dap, akin to the Chevrolet Corvette. The latter is a luxury item which, in my opinion, is outrageously overpriced and offers unremarkable sonic performance with regards to its formal competitors; a Maserati GranTurismo to iBasso's Corvette, if I may continue with the automotive references.

"they could never keep abreast of advacement of technology"

I didn't say that.

"you sound like an avid fan of ibasso, but this is how you defend them"

Au contraire, my dear friend. I have never owned an iBasso product and may never will. I am neither defending nor assaulting iBasso; I sought to help you better rationalize your concern. If you believe user interface and build quality of a company's premier product, their pinnacle of engineering, to be "junk," them maybe you ought to wait for something else.

"the thing is, is it really that hard for these chinese audiophile dap manufacturers to improve these objective aspects of their products in stead of constantly boasting the subjective notion - 'sound quality' "

Companies exist to make a profit. With certain material costs and wages rising rapidly in China, it is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain the wide profit margins historically enjoyed by Chinese manufacturers. iBasso has their sights aimed squarely at the audiophile market with the DX50. It is far more profitable to increase subjective sound quality than to improve build quality and user interface. Better build quality requires more intensive manufacturing processes and hours of extra engineering. The same goes for user interface; for any tangible increase in function, countless hours of programming are required, even for what consumers may consider to be "simple" functions. On the other hand, changes in subjective performance may be achieved through the swapping of different parts or "tinkering," which is vastly cheaper and easier. I know that I am vastly oversimplifying the process; a great degree of credit is due to designers for their creativity and ingenuity in their implementation of various audio circuits.

"Therefore, it would be either a shame or an intended scam for ibasso not to improve these deficiencies to make dx50 more portable"

I applaud your single proper use of capitalization; my hat goes off to you. You keep on forgetting whom iBasso is trying to please. Most audiophiles place subjective sound quality above all else when considering a given component. If the DX50 sonically outperforms its peers, then it will be successful in its intended niche. If it is no better in any department than a Sansa Clip, then...I suppose you may be right on this one. But I have the slightest feeling that won't be the case.
 

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