[AnalogandDigital]

I wouldn’t even attempt trying to casually carry around an M17.

I must admit that if I wasn’t planning on purchasing a desktop amp I would have most likely settled on the M17; those Sennheiser HD8XX need boatloads of power to be at their best.

Does it need that much powerful ... ?

 

[audiobot]

Eventually apps do obsolete if they are on an old OS and can’t update.

I’d imagine something subscription based would try to remain compatible for older OS versions for as long as they can.

That is upsetting news to me. Im not familiar with Ibasso Android updates and support, but saying u will only get 2-4 years support for the OS before the music streaming apps become null is not worth the price of admission.

 

[AnalogandDigital]

That is upsetting news to me. Im not familiar with Ibasso Android updates and support, but saying u will only get 2-4 years support for the OS before the music streaming apps become null is not worth the price of admission.

Do you keep a DAP for 4 years or longer ?

 

[jamato8]

That is upsetting news to me. Im not familiar with Ibasso Android updates and support, but saying u will only get 2-4 years support for the OS before the music streaming apps become null is not worth the price of admission.

There are daps still using much older Android OS and going fine.

 

[scottm18]

Just pre-ordered! I think this is going to be a nice upgrade over my LG V40 ; )
$2499 Aussie dollaridoos...
Happy to give any feedback once I get it in my ears!

I still use my LG V40 and V50 as well

Here I thought I was the only one still holding on to the glory days of LG . The V40 & 50 are no slouch of phones on the audio side... in fact they drive these boutique Final Audio Sonorous X cans beautifully.

But it's time for another DAP to *really* see what they can do... my venerable Calyx M (if anyone remembers that one-off gem) sounds fantastic, but there's absolutely zero online capability.

 

[RIGATIO]

That is upsetting news to me. Im not familiar with Ibasso Android updates and support, but saying u will only get 2-4 years support for the OS before the music streaming apps become null is not worth the price of admission.

My old Pioneer xdp-300r with Android 5.1 takes every streaming service like a champ. Tidal, Qobuz, Amazon HD. I dont think the dx300 will have any problems lasting at least 5 years with its OS. And there will be an upgrade to Android 11 for the dx300. Whats your problems guys? The life is too colorful?

 

[AnalogandDigital]

I still use my LG V40 and V50 as well

Here I thought I was the only one still holding on to the glory days of LG . The V40 & 50 are no slouch of phones on the audio side... in fact they drive these boutique Final Audio Sonorous X cans beautifully.

But it's time for another DAP to *really* see what they can do...

I still use both as well
Even drive my 300 Ohm Sennheiser
Who would expect that from a cellphone
And perfect road warrior actually
And yes the V50 has an awesome screen with 1440p and still fast as well !

 

[audiobot]

My old Pioneer xdp-300r with Android 5.1 takes every streaming service like a champ. Tidal, Qobuz, Amazon HD. I dont think the dx300 will have any problems lasting at least 5 years with its OS. And there will be an upgrade to Android 11 for the dx300. Whats your problems guys? The life is too colorful?

Thanks for the info. Wasn't sure how these daps were handling updates on the android end and its effect on streaming apps. Thats good to hear.

 

[audiobot]

Do you keep a DAP for 4 years or longer ?

I plan on it. I was going the dongle route, but this and the Sony walkman around the same price have perked my interest. I use Apple Music (lossless & hi-res), so streaming support is essential. One thing I shouldn't have disregarded is that this is a very healthy resale community. As niche as it is. Always have to remind myself that when taking the plunge for the more expensive gear.

 

[German Expat in Vietnam]

@jamato8. Is the volume control just as easy to press to turn it off as on the DX 300? Or does he have a slightly different pressure point? Often times when I had it in my pocket, it would turn itself off. Despite the good silicon case.

 

[horatiu]

I wouldn’t even attempt trying to casually carry around an M17.

I must admit that if I wasn’t planning on purchasing a desktop amp I would have most likely settled on the M17; those Sennheiser HD8XX need boatloads of power to be at their best.

You'll find that even an average priced desktop amp is better. A serious power source is big, capacitors take space and so on. If you could have a desktop sound from a "portable" device no manufacturer would make desktop sized amps. It's not like FiiO discovered the secret of miniaturisation and nobody else can do that.

I have a DX220 and two desktop amps, Burson Soloist 3X and Cayin HA-6A. Both are in a different league compared to the DX220. And I don't mean output power, even though both have a lot more power. I don't deny M17 might sound better than DX220 (on battery, while plugged-in it even loses the clean power delivery of a battery), but I am 100% it doesn't get anywhere near a desktop amp.

 

[scottm18]

And yes the V50 has an awesome screen with 1440p and still fast as well!

And nice cameras with no bump whatsoever. Probably the best phone LG made, but too bad with Sprint dead & its low-rent 1st Gen 5G pretty officially makes the phone function of the V50 dead as well. I tried to get it to work properly with T-Mobile...but got incredibly frustrated and eventually threw in the towel. Now it's a great... media player.

Perfect nail-in-the-coffin scenario for LG.

 

[scottm18]

I was quite happy to hear that Ibasso will be updating the dx300 to android 11. Could add 2 more years potentially before the player goes obsolete with my streaming services (Apple Music and Qobuz).

No worry for this scenario at all. I have Android 8 on my LG V30s and these apps run better on that than than the newer OS. For instance on my phone, for whatever reason DSD native playback (a major feature for me) is disabled if you go over Android 9. A10 and above it converts DSD to PCM which is completely against the whole format purpose....so I've fought tooth and nail (package disabler anyone?) to keep my carrier V40 on 9.

You will be done with the DAP well before the apps stop working on it.

 

[14christ]

You'll find that even an average priced desktop amp is better. A serious power source is big, capacitors take space and so on. If you could have a desktop sound from a "portable" device no manufacturer would make desktop sized amps. It's not like FiiO discovered the secret of miniaturisation and nobody else can do that.

I have a DX220 and two desktop amps, Burson Soloist 3X and Cayin HA-6A. Both are in a different league compared to the DX220. And I don't mean output power, even though both have a lot more power. I don't deny M17 might sound better than DX220 (on battery, while plugged-in it even loses the clean power delivery of a battery), but I am 100% it doesn't get anywhere near a desktop amp.

Speaking from someone that actually owns m17, dx312, and a topping a30/d30 stack I can confirm that in fact the m17 is neck and neck with my desktop stack. Not saying it's the same with your desktop stack. Also, I've got a power conditioner 6400ISO that my BRZHIFI linear PSU for the m17 is plugged into. All with custom power cables.

 

[scottm18]

It is playing very well with the SR2 and the Utopia. I haven't tried the others yet.

Jamato8: Any FInal Audo or Pioneer Master cans you could round up to try?