I am fairly certain they are the same internally, but with different exterior styling & cables (Pro = coiled; Limited & Premium = straight). Here is some additional info that I came across:
http://homestudiobasics.com/beyerdynamic-dt-990-pro-vs-premium-end-all-confusion/
I have the 250 Pro model & I agree with XERO1: They are some of the best sounding under-$200 headphones I've ever heard.
Thanks for that link. I've been thinking about getting an open back hp to complement my Senn. Hd5x8's.I want a pair of open backs that are more v-shaped with more bass than the senns.A more fun sound. Don't get me wrong, I like the senns neutrlalish sound; but for a change of pace, with some music I want a more fun sound. The Dt990's appear to be what I'm looking for. The only thing that concerns me, is that the treble might be too much for me. Although I could equalize the treble, to tone down the highs, if they're too much.
I've got a line on a used pair of Premiums. Think I'll buy them.
I am fairly certain they are the same internally, but with different exterior styling & cables (Pro = coiled; Limited & Premium = straight). Here is some additional info that I came across:
http://homestudiobasics.com/beyerdynamic-dt-990-pro-vs-premium-end-all-confusion/
I have the 250 Pro model & I agree with XERO1: They are some of the best sounding under-$200 headphones I've ever heard.
Thanks for that link. I've been thinking about getting an open back hp to complement my Senn. Hd5x8's.I want a pair of open backs that are more v-shaped with more bass than the senns.A more fun sound. Don't get me wrong, I like the senns neutrlalish sound; but for a change of pace, with some music I want a more fun sound. The Dt990's appear to be what I'm looking for. The only thing that concerns me, is that the treble might be too much for me. Although I could equalize the treble, to tone down the highs, if they're too much.
I've got a line on a used pair of Premiums. Think I'll buy them.
You won't be disappointed. On many recordings, I find the treble to be too much, but the rest of the sound presentation EASILY makes up for this trade off for me. They respond very well to EQ and I've recently just put another foam cover over the driver which has enabled me to enjoy these amazing headphones on more material now without EQ. I also have the HD598 and these are, as you are imagining, a great compliment to the 598s more slow, laid back and liquid smooth presentation.
You won't be disappointed. On many recordings, I find the treble to be too much, but the rest of the sound presentation EASILY makes up for this trade off for me. They respond very well to EQ and I've recently just put another foam cover over the driver which has enabled me to enjoy these amazing headphones on more material now without EQ. I also have the HD598 and these are, as you are imagining, a great compliment to the 598s more slow, laid back and liquid smooth presentation.
Thanks for that link. I've been thinking about getting an open back hp to complement my Senn. Hd5x8's.I want a pair of open backs that are more v-shaped with more bass than the senns.A more fun sound. Don't get me wrong, I like the senns neutrlalish sound; but for a change of pace, with some music I want a more fun sound. The Dt990's appear to be what I'm looking for. The only thing that concerns me, is that the treble might be too much for me. Although I could equalize the treble, to tone down the highs, if they're too much.
I've got a line on a used pair of Premiums. Think I'll buy them.
You won't be disappointed. On many recordings, I find the treble to be too much, but the rest of the sound presentation EASILY makes up for this trade off for me. They respond very well to EQ and I've recently just put another foam cover over the driver which has enabled me to enjoy these amazing headphones on more material now without EQ. I also have the HD598 and these are, as you are imagining, a great compliment to the 598s more slow, laid back and liquid smooth presentation.
You won't be disappointed. On many recordings, I find the treble to be too much, but the rest of the sound presentation EASILY makes up for this trade off for me. They respond very well to EQ and I've recently just put another foam cover over the driver which has enabled me to enjoy these amazing headphones on more material now without EQ. I also have the HD598 and these are, as you are imagining, a great compliment to the 598s more slow, laid back and liquid smooth presentation.
So I'm not a "bright headphone" guy, but I gambled on a pair for $100 on Amazon's warehouse. I've been in love with stuff like the LCD-2 (pre-fazor), Audioquest Nighthawk, etc. I'd heard nightmare stories of the treble spike. I decided to test 'em out by putting on some VERY harsh black metal that I know would make my ears bleed. No burn-in, using a Schiit Vali. Just straight out of the box.
Boys? Color me IMPRESSED.
The spike is there, but it's not BAD. Just present. I only notice it really with cheap mics on Skype. I've been trying to sort of "pare down" my collection to cheap equipment and dayum.
So I'm not a "bright headphone" guy, but I gambled on a pair for $100 on Amazon's warehouse. I've been in love with stuff like the LCD-2 (pre-fazor), Audioquest Nighthawk, etc. I'd heard nightmare stories of the treble spike. I decided to test 'em out by putting on some VERY harsh black metal that I know would make my ears bleed. No burn-in, using a Schiit Vali. Just straight out of the box.
Boys? Color me IMPRESSED.
The spike is there, but it's not BAD. Just present. I only notice it really with cheap mics on Skype. I've been trying to sort of "pare down" my collection to cheap equipment and dayum.
The peak threw me off initially, but I did get used to it. It really only creeps in when cranking volume in certain busy tracks. I did mess with EQ and found a simple fix by lowering 4-5 db in the 8-10khz range. But then found it affects clarity and detail on other more intimate tracks. So I usually leave EQ off unless a particular track calls for it.
The peak threw me off initially, but I did get used to it. It really only creeps in when cranking volume in certain busy tracks. I did mess with EQ and found a simple fix by lowering 4-5 db in the 8-10khz range. But then found it affects clarity and detail on other more intimate tracks. So I usually leave EQ off unless a particular track calls for it.
I do feel it's an "artificial" clarity, but honestly I don't mind it. I'm enjoying the size and space of things. I'm also just pleased as punch that I might end up with a $100 headphone coming down from using gear in the $1000 area.
So I'm not a "bright headphone" guy, but I gambled on a pair for $100 on Amazon's warehouse. I've been in love with stuff like the LCD-2 (pre-fazor), Audioquest Nighthawk, etc. I'd heard nightmare stories of the treble spike. I decided to test 'em out by putting on some VERY harsh black metal that I know would make my ears bleed. No burn-in, using a Schiit Vali. Just straight out of the box.
Boys? Color me IMPRESSED.
The spike is there, but it's not BAD. Just present. I only notice it really with cheap mics on Skype. I've been trying to sort of "pare down" my collection to cheap equipment and dayum.
The treble spike on the DT 990 Pro isn't all that bad and can easily be EQ'd or modded out if it poses a problem, it wasn't all that much of a problem for me when I had them except on the LE which had those black pads that made the treble notably brighter. Beyer is where it's at the $100-200 price range imho. Just wait until you hear the DT 150(you should love these, they are on the darker side, think somewhat similar to Hawks but with more midrange energy and slightly more treble energy and not quite as deep bass).
Wow, I didn't know the velour pads made a big difference.I'd replaced the stock pads on my DT990 600 Ohms with a pair of black Beyerdynamic ones, I thought the bass sounded a little off. It didn't seem as powerful as before. I then took the black ones and placed them on my just acquired DT770 250 Ohms and the bass that many have talked about for the DT770 seemed somewhat underwhelming. Damn, when I replaced the black ones with the stock DT770 ones, yowzah, there was a difference. The bass had more impact......what the heck. They are velour pads and are quite similar in shape/build after all, yet they affect the sound quite.....significantly.
The black pads and grey pads feel different material and foam wise. The black pads have a firmer and likely more porous foam and have rougher fabric texture. The grey pads are softer, have smoother and softer fabric, and the foam does seem to compress more but it also brings out more bass impact and makes the treble darker compared to the black pads. This is comparing the 990V(grey) to 990VB(black) pads, not 770 pads or anything like that.
Thanks Kman. I have a set coming tomorrow now. I do find the peak in the treble a bit ott on occasions so if the grey pads take it down, it will help them. I do like the look of the all black headphone though.
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