DT-880s a bit too bright; HD-650 or D2000?
Sep 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM Post #16 of 54
Now i am even more confused.
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D2000 highs extend higher than DT880? What about bass? Its not that highs on DT880 are too "loud" or too sharp but i miss more bass on a lot of my albums in my music collection. I am "happy" with overall sound of DT880 but there is no fun in these headphones. So i think that they are not so great for rock. Thats my opinnion.
So from closed headphones what is best option? It seems that D2000 are great for what i am looking for. What about HFI-780? And last option is an open can simmilar to DT880 but with more lower end and more on the fun side. Because i will keep DT880 for just one reason. They are absolutely fantastic for some albums.
 
Sep 2, 2008 at 4:12 PM Post #18 of 54
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Originally Posted by ElephantTLK /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Now i am even more confused.
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D2000 highs extend higher than DT880? What about bass? Its not that highs on DT880 are too "loud" or too sharp but i miss more bass on a lot of my albums in my music collection. I am "happy" with overall sound of DT880 but there is no fun in these headphones. So i think that they are not so great for rock. Thats my opinnion.
So from closed headphones what is best option? It seems that D2000 are great for what i am looking for. What about HFI-780? And last option is an open can simmilar to DT880 but with more lower end and more on the fun side. Because i will keep DT880 for just one reason. They are absolutely fantastic for some albums.



A DT990 may be it for you.
 
Sep 2, 2008 at 5:10 PM Post #19 of 54
Well, I haven't spent much times with the HD600, but I had owned the HD580 before which is supposedly similar. I didn't find overt brightness on the mids either. The Sennheiser line has that warm sound and relatively laid back treble that is rather easy on sensitive ears.

DT990 is like DT880 with more treble, bass, and even less mids. That's got to be one of the most sibilant headphones I've ever tried. I have a feeling that amped correctly, I'll like them better than D2000 but I didn't do that when I own them
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Sep 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM Post #20 of 54
if you find dt880 to be bright, you'll still find them bright even when paired with mk3 or 4.
x5 or whatever for hd600.
to my ears, hd600 is a good mix of dt880, dt990 and hd650 with a hint of ms2. i cant explain it. after trying those 4 cans, i bought hd600 with some sarcasm. now i am in love with them.
 
Sep 2, 2008 at 6:18 PM Post #21 of 54
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Now i am even more confused.
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D2000 highs extend higher than DT880? What about bass? Its not that highs on DT880 are too "loud" or too sharp but i miss more bass on a lot of my albums in my music collection. I am "happy" with overall sound of DT880 but there is no fun in these headphones. So i think that they are not so great for rock. Thats my opinnion.
So from closed headphones what is best option? It seems that D2000 are great for what i am looking for. What about HFI-780? And last option is an open can simmilar to DT880 but with more lower end and more on the fun side. Because i will keep DT880 for just one reason. They are absolutely fantastic for some albums.



If you like DT880 signature but would like more civilized treble, better mids and more bass, get 600 Ohm version. It has it all.
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Sep 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM Post #22 of 54
FWIW, I have the 580 and the 650. Everything I've read points to the 580 being similar to the 600....and I find the 580 slow and muddled in comparison to the 650.

Of course, to mess everyone up some more, I have an "old" version of the 580s and a "new" version of the 650. Love the sennheiser confusion eh?
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Of course, I am driving both with a DV332.
 
Sep 2, 2008 at 9:06 PM Post #23 of 54
I'd suggest SONY SA5000 for a replacement for DT880. It has most of the good qualities of 880 but less bright and better bass, better soundstage, less recessed mids.

The second in line would be HD600. Yeah it is very good compliment for 880.
 
Sep 2, 2008 at 11:24 PM Post #25 of 54
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I'd suggest SONY SA5000 for a replacement for DT880. It has most of the good qualities of 880 but less bright and better bass, better soundstage, less recessed mids.


How about not on all 4 you've listed.
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Sep 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM Post #26 of 54
FWIW, here's my vote for the D2000. Deep, ample bass, extended, detailed highs and a fairly balanced--yes, balanced--midrange. IMHE, the D2000 resolve more detail than the HD600.

I run the stock D2000 with the Bada PH-12 and Darkvoice 337, and I have never experienced "recessed" mids or "sibilant" highs unless the source recording happened to be that way to begin with.
 
Sep 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM Post #27 of 54
I'm the original poster and I just want to say that I'm really starting to dig the DT-880s, especially with classical. I've got 100 to 150 hours on them now. Maybe that's the difference.

I'm listening to a Sony fully digital recording of Bartok's Miraculous Mandarin Suite right now and the sound stage is absolutely engrossing. I'm running my 'phones through a Citypulse 7.2 and can't wait to hear what they sound like through the Little Dot MK IV I have on order.
 
Sep 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM Post #28 of 54
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What? SA5000 less bright than 880? How?


believe me. I have an 05'/250ohm DT880 and two SA5000's (both bought brand new and one has been modded). I've been A/B'ing to death between them and HD600. From time to time, I feel SA5000 tend to be a little 'dark'!

With SA5000's huge amount of details plus super fast driver, hence decay and reverberation, I can somehow understand the perception of brightness. Try some female vocals between 880, HD600, and SA5000, you will find SA5000 is the darkest among the three.





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Sep 6, 2008 at 5:24 PM Post #30 of 54
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Andrew, if you are in Bay Area you are welcome to stop by and give it try yourself.


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Why, I have them all.
 

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