Dr. Ebbetts has heard the Beatles remasters: He's retiring!
Jul 8, 2009 at 3:39 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 23

evanft

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Well, there ya go.

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"Dear friends,

I sincerely hope all is well with you and yours.

Indeed, this is an unexpected mass-mailer. Please forgive the
unsolicited rambles that follow.

To start, there are many of you who have outstanding orders with me at
this time. Some of you have been waiting for a while, and I wish to
apologize for that. Please don't worry. Each and every one of these
outstanding orders will be tended to this week. You have my word.

I appreciate your patience and understanding.

Second, there has been considerable buzz surrounding the new Beatles
remasters, due for release in September. There should be. We have all
been waiting for this day, and it is about to arrive - finally! Thanks
to a long-time supporter and friend to this project, I have had the
opportunity to hear genuine samples of the new remasters due out in two
months.

They are good.

Very good.

Those of you who will be buying them - and those of you who have already
preordered - will not be disappointed.

In fact, I will venture to guess than many of you will be more than
pleasantly surprised at how good they sound.

And with what promises to be outstanding packaging all around, it will
be a collector's nirvana.

From the outset of the Dr. Ebbetts Sound Systems project, I swore that
once EMI did the right thing and released remasters to be proud of, I
would not continue doing what I was doing. After all, the only reason I
did this was because Apple/EMI/Capitol would not - and because I so very
much love the Beatles.

While my love for the band has not changed, everything else has.

EMI/Capitol began their release of the American LPs on compact disc a
few years ago, and now EMI has tackled the British catalogue in fullest
detail.

It's what we all wanted. As Beatles fans, it's what we've prayed for.

To that end - and with the heaviest of hearts - effective immediately,
Dr. Ebbetts Sound Systems will cease operations.

Many of you will recall that the entire purpose of the Dr. Ebbetts
project was to make available to the public the best sounding versions
of the Beatles' original LP releases - with emphasis on the American and
British catalogues. Believe me, it wasn't a hard thing to do considering
the substandard quality of the original CD catalogue from 1987 onward.

The fact of the matter is, the Dr. Ebbetts material does not - and will
not - sound better than what is coming commercially in September. People
I trust agree with me. The remasters sound remarkably well balanced,
with solid, punchy bass, smooth mids and not-to-harsh, yet crisp highs.
In comparison, many of the Ebbetts masters fall short - weaker bass,
dimished mids, and often too-bright highs.

It's a given that the remasters will not please everyone, but they will
be good enough to make the Ebbetts catalogue solidly inferior.

The artwork and packaging of the EMI material will prove to make current
Dr. Ebbetts releases look like Xerox machine fodder.

It pains me, seeing as I have invested so much time in this thing, but I
humbly and officially put this nearly-fourteen year project to bed.

I have outlived my usefulness in this hobby.

I know there are many who will ask why I just don't continue releasing
titles that are NOT being put out by Apple/EMI - foreign releases, rare
pressings, etc..

My reasons are complicated, but they are what they are. In short, if the
Dr. Ebbetts BLUE BOX set is not the definitive sounding version of the
original UK stereo LPs, then why issue them at all?

Many will remember the original BEAT CDs of the 1990s that presented the
Beatles US LPs sourced from cassettes. I surely do. They became
immediately obsolete with the advent of Dr. Ebbetts. No one bought those
BEAT CDs anymore when I came along. Why would they? At the time, my
material was far superior.

The Ebbetts BLUE BOX series was only issued because Apple/EMI's versions
were substantially inferior to anything I - or any number of
needledroppers - were putting out. The Ebbetts BLUE BOX set is at THE
HEART of the Dr. Ebbetts Sound Systems collection, in my estimation. If
that set is now inferior to the commercial release, then it has no
business existing. Suffice to say, I would not release the BLUE BOX set
today if new remasters were already commercially available.

I would have no need.

And if my CORE SET is inferior, I don't wish to have the rest of the
catalogue branded as such either.

Therefore, it is time to put it all on the shelf.

I am requesting that all of you who have LPs with me contact me as soon
as possible and let me know which ones are yours so that I might send
them back to you. I promise I will get those to you in short order.

So that your return LP requests will not be lost in what promises to be
a hectic e-mail shuffle, please put "MY LPs" somewhere in the subject
line.

Your generosity, kindness and willingness to share your treasured
possessions with me is something I shall never forget.

To each and every one of you who has supported me and befriended me
throughout the years, I wish to extend my deepest gratitude. Your
loyalty has moved me beyond words. This entire project began as a
fanciful hobby many years ago and has mushroomed into something far
beyond anything I could have imagined.

From every corner of the entire world, I have been blessed to meet some
of the best Beatle people out there. I will never forget you.

But now it is time to make way for the "big boys."

Please be sure to secure your copies of the remasters. I guarantee they
will replace your Dr. Ebbetts CDs in your rotations and playlists - as
they should. Display them proudly and let people know who the greatest
band of all time is.

Remember, quoting my project motto from all those years ago, it is ONLY
about the music.

That is why I do what I do today.

Now go put your hard-earned money to good use!

God Bless.


Drew"


 
Jul 8, 2009 at 6:43 AM Post #3 of 23
Buy the mono box and then the following in stereo:

A Hard Day's Night
Abbey Road
Beatles for Sale
Let it Be
Magical Mystery Tour
Past Masters
Yellow Submarine
 
Jul 8, 2009 at 7:09 AM Post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by evanft /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Buy the mono box and then the following in stereo:

A Hard Day's Night
Abbey Road
Beatles for Sale
Let it Be
Magical Mystery Tour
Past Masters
Yellow Submarine



Thanks for posting the letter. Over the years I collected a lot of Dr Ebbetts' cds. In some cases, I actually had the cd before I seeked out the original records. I heard there will be remaster vinyls as well. Anyone has news about that? It will be interesting to see how they compare to the MFSL set or the BC13.
 
Jul 8, 2009 at 7:14 AM Post #5 of 23
Holy cowbell, now I really want to hear what the remastered songs sound like!
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I was a fan of Dr. Ebbetts for awhile, until a fellow Head-Fi suggested I try pbthal's stuff. Now...my preference may switch minds again come September!
 
Jul 8, 2009 at 7:26 AM Post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Holy cowbell, now I really want to hear what the remastered songs sound like!
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I was a fan of Dr. Ebbetts for awhile, until a fellow Head-Fi suggested I try pbthal's stuff. Now...my preference may switch minds again come September!



I am still a fan of his even though there are better sounding versions. I like his passion and his attention to details on everything- the high quality cd covers and labels etc..

* Are you coming to the Bay area meet? I can bring some of those cds with me. It will be nice to see everyone there for the first time- I have never been to any head hi meets before.
 
Jul 8, 2009 at 7:40 AM Post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by pcf /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I am still a fan of his even though there are better sounding versions. I like his passion and his attention to details on everything- the high quality cd covers and labels etc..

* Are you coming to the Bay area meet? I can bring some of those cds with me. It will be nice to see everyone there for the first time- I have never been to any head hi meets before.



Indeed, I've always been impressed with his thoroughness towards not just the music, but the restoration of the artwork as well.

* Yup, I'll be there; I forgot the thread of who else is coming, but I know Uncle Erik will be there!
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I guess I'll bring my gear down there, even though I doubt it will be overshadowed by 90% of the other stuff there.
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Jul 8, 2009 at 7:54 AM Post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Indeed, I've always been impressed with his thoroughness towards not just the music, but the restoration of the artwork as well.

* Yup, I'll be there; I forgot the thread of who else is coming, but I know Uncle Erik will be there!
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I guess I'll bring my gear down there, even though I doubt it will be overshadowed by 90% of the other stuff there.
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Great! I'll bring my stuff and be overshadowed by others too. Let's hide in the corner.
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Jul 8, 2009 at 8:01 AM Post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by pcf /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Great! I'll bring my stuff and be overshadowed by others too. Let's hide in the corner.
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EDIT: Oops, that "doubt" was supposed to be "know" in my last post.
 
Jul 8, 2009 at 3:13 PM Post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by evanft /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Buy the mono box and then the following in stereo:

A Hard Day's Night
Abbey Road
Beatles for Sale
Let it Be
Magical Mystery Tour
Past Masters
Yellow Submarine



Anyone else second this suggestion? I'd like to do this too, but it's going to be an expensive decision. Other opinions might persuade me though
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Jul 8, 2009 at 3:57 PM Post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Berlioz /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Anyone else second this suggestion? I'd like to do this too, but it's going to be an expensive decision. Other opinions might persuade me though
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3 of those, AR, LIB, and YS, are stereo-only, so they're obvious choices. MMT is great in stereo, and there probably be tracks on the stereo Past Masters that aren't on the mono version. The stereo mix of Beatles for Sale is amazingly lifelike and just sounds wonderful. AHDN is also surprisingly good in stereo.
 
Jul 8, 2009 at 4:21 PM Post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by Berlioz /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Anyone else second this suggestion? I'd like to do this too, but it's going to be an expensive decision. Other opinions might persuade me though
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You can alway skip the box set and just buy the cds. That will save you money. The individual cds are $12.99 or $13.99; double albums are more-$17.99 for the White Album and $18.99 for the Past Masters(vol1&2 combined)
I don't know the US pricing for the box sets yet but they will be more expensive than buying just the cds separately. Here's a link to the UK amazon for the mono box set-

The Beatles In Mono: The Beatles: Amazon.co.uk: Music

Being such a geek myself I'm going to buy the box sets!
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If you only want the music I would just buy them separately.
About the mono vs stereo debate. Although the mono versions of the earlier albums are the intended version. I do remember a lot of people moaning about the fact that the first 4 albums were only availbale in mono cds. MFSL released the those 4 albums in stereo vinyl lps and they sounded really good (to me at least
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). As a result, there were tons of bootleg needle drops being sold for relatively high prices.
If you ask me, I would say both the mono and stereo versions have their places regardless of what you think of them. It is a bit like all the Beatles US Capitol releases. A lot of people don't like them (including the Beatles themselves) because of the song order; added echo etc... They were not produced as the artists intended but you know what? I'm glad that they were finally out on cds ( the capitol remasters). People in America listened to them that way originally. Correct or not they are still part of the history and memories. I think they should go even further and release albums like "Hey Jude"; "Love songs" and all those extra US Beatles ablums on cd. Better still-bring out "Yesterday and Today" with the butcher cover!

Yesterday and Today - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Jul 8, 2009 at 7:11 PM Post #14 of 23
Oh heck, I promised myself I'd do this if the thread got bumped again.
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Here is an article on my blog that I wrote last night, inspired by this thread. There's even two comparison files I include at the end of the article. One is from the "normal" CD version you would buy at a store. The second one is the Dr. Ebbetts version, sourced from his MFSL-1-109 CD (I don't know if there were any "upgrades to that version).

Enjoy!
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EDIT: As a bonus, I uploaded "I Saw Her Standing There" just now; it was the first Dr. Ebbetts remaster that I heard, and it just blew me away.
 

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