Yea, I heard them in Best Buy (which I always state when describing my experiences with them because I didn't know what the source was) and just didn't like them. They did feel kind of flimsy too; kinda like an expensive flimsy, to let you know that they cost a lot and are easily breakable, which just isn't a legitimate reason in any regard.
The next time I see someone close on campus with them, I'll ask to listen and see how they sound out of the 4g touch and mentally compare with my cans (not really a fair comarison, but I do need a baseline.)