Do the iems have too sparkly treble?

[Riselie]

Hello everyone, this is my first post!

Thanks to this Head-fi I'm right now the happy owner of beyerdynamic DT770 and shenheizer HD650. I am VERY satisfied with these cans.

Lately I decided to try iems.
I went for Shure's SE535 that are supposed to be great iems.
The first thing I noticed is that the highs are way too bright. At 10-20k the treble is bothering and I cannot hear the sound of the hi hatch clearly, just noise. No mater how much I lower the treble on the EQ, it is still too strong!
Is it possible that the specific pair has a problem on both earpieces?

 

[Mooses9]

Well even though most ppl will disagree when I had my 535s I did notuce that they tamed down some after a burn in period...im just saying thus is my own expierence....also depending on how many hours tou listened to them sometimes your brain has to adjust to the particular sound of a iem.

On another note when I had my bronze 535s I felt that they did have sparkle but it had roll off...it definitly wasnt shrilly but I didnt feel the sparkle was overbearing or overwhelming. ...now comparing the bronze 535 to the red 535 the reds had no roll off and in comparison the bronze highs were definitly not as bright.

You may just not be used to the sound of the 535s??

 

[goodvibes]

You may noit have a great seal. Try the foamies they give (olives) or a larger silicon tip.

 

[PakoBoy]

When i listend to my music (all 320 vbr/cbr) the highs are never too bright, but when I watch a movie with them or use them for calls the highs can be bothering. So it could be that its because of the quality of your music

 

[Riselie]

The ceiling is good and in any case it affects the bass not the treble.

The treble of the bronze 535s that I have is not bad all the way up. Some particular frequencies are problematic.

The final "s" of the vocals for example, is very emphasized as well as the cymbals. Their sound is not clear at all, it is very messy and bothering.

I don't believe I will never get used to it.
The song "Lithium" for example is impossible to hear, the distorted Cobain's voice is really annoying and hides both the hihat and the cymbal from the background.
The snare drum in some songs sounds like a hi-hat!

My music is 256kbps and on my HD650s sounds fantastic.

So, is it possible that both the earpieces are faulty?

 

[Spyro]

...still laughing....
 
535's too bright???
 
Welcome to the world og high end audio. Good IEM's are easily as good as headphones.  It just cost more to equal the quality of sound but you can achieve anything you want.

 

[Riselie]

Owning the HD650s and an amp, I know more or less what high end audio means.. With these cans I can hear every detail of the cymbal, I can also hear clearly the vibration of the cymbal in some tracks.

So, do you suggest that my 535s are faulty? I know that they are not supposed to sound as well as my cans, but is it possible that the treble is so bad?

 

[Spyro]

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Owning the HD650s and an amp, I know more or less what high end audio means.. With these cans I can hear every detail of the cymbal, I can also hear clearly the vibration of the cymbal in some tracks.

So, do you suggest that my 535s are faulty? I know that they are not supposed to sound as well as my cans, but is it possible that the treble is so bad?

 
Compared to HD650 I just don't think SE535's are a worthy comparison.  Westone 4 is much more refined and smooth with a larger soundstage getting more towards a headphone-type of sound.

 

[Riselie]

I just tried the sennheiser ei80 and it also has very stong unpleasant treble. I know that this is a dynamic drive iem, but is it normal to be like that? I read that it is supposed to be a good one...
Though It sounds very close to some cheap Panasonic earbuds that I have!

I am so disappointed once tried these two pairs of iems that I am thinking to give up!!

 

[up late]

I have a pair of se530's and they're not bright - kinda boring to be honest. I hope you don't give up just yet - you're only four posts in.

 

[Mooses9]

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The ceiling is good and in any case it affects the bass not the treble.

The treble of the bronze 535s that I have is not bad all the way up. Some particular frequencies are problematic.

The final "s" of the vocals for example, is very emphasized as well as the cymbals. Their sound is not clear at all, it is very messy and bothering.

I don't believe I will never get used to it.
The song "Lithium" for example is impossible to hear, the distorted Cobain's voice is really annoying and hides both the hihat and the cymbal from the background.
The snare drum in some songs sounds like a hi-hat!

My music is 256kbps and on my HD650s sounds fantastic.

So, is it possible that both the earpieces are faulty?

i guess there a chance that they could be faulty without hearthing them and comparing them to a exact other pair, threres no way to to exactly tell
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I have a pair of se530's and they're not bright - kinda boring to be honest. I hope you don't give up just yet - you're only four posts in.

i have a pair of BTGAudio Modded Se530's with a SPC OCC cable and definitly feel they are a more analytical sounding IEM, very detailed, highs mids and lows all very clear  more on the flat neutral side no frequency is above on another all pretty much in line with eachother.., in comparing the 530 to tf10 the tf10 are a ''funner'' sounding iem. but they lack the detail of the 530's

 

[LFC_SL]

The one area of the sound that is most neglected by manufacturers is treble. Far from being "bright" or "sparkly" many IEM cannot reproduce treble accurately at all
 
A minority of people have a particular sensitivity. But the majority blame the IEM when actually one of or a combination of the recording, source file or DAC are poor. Poor recordings and low bit-rate files typically have poorly rendered treble. This is particularly evident where you are too cheap to pay for your music and download them

 

[Riselie]

I have a pair of se530's and they're not bright - kinda boring to be honest. I hope you don't give up just yet - you're only four posts in.

I was talking about the iems. My HD650 are amazing. The only problem on them is that I cannot take them around with me because of the size and sound leakage. And It is not very comfortable if you go to sleep with them..! The 535 are very comfortable in all these matters. I really believe it is impossible their treble to be so bad, so I decided to sent them back and see what the experts will say.

The only think I cannot understand is how can it be that both drives have a problem. I also tried a different cable (the one with mic) with no luck.

I will post the answer from the service next week. And I will probably go for the UE900 because I found that the bass of the SE535 is very good in quiet environment but for outdoors use (and this is my case) it is not enough.

 

[NocturnalKnives]

My 535's are definitely sensitive to the quality of the file being played.  Good quality sounds great.  Lower quality files give them trouble at the high end with "s" sounds like stated above.
 

 

[eke2k6]

If the SE530 is anything to go by, then yes, the SE535 might have treble problem. It's not bright, per se, but it has a very sibilant spike in the lower treble. It was a huge shock to me, especially after hearing so many reports of dulled down Shure treble.