Sorry
@gregorio and
@Vamp898, it is just not a discussion I can take seriously. All amps sound the same? If I hear a difference that means the amp is faulty or poorly made? If I find an amp boring, that in fact means the headphones are boring (which are probably the most exciting sounding headphones I have ever heard). To me it is just utter BS and simply ridiculous. Like arguing with a blind man about the shade of blue you see on the sky. Or saying every violin sound the same because they have 4 strings.
I thought I am just leaving a random post in a random thread, haven't realised I am in the science section. (Almost as bad as ASR.) Put my hand in the wrong beehive, I guess. Your combative and unkind, almost hostile attitude also doesn't help too much. We simply live in two different realities. To me amps make the second biggest difference in the audio chain after headphones. If you can't hear that difference or consider it to be a fault, you are probably in the wrong hobby.
Look at the thread and see who is posting that
all amps sound the same. Basically, it's you, the warriors who rise up to rightfully oppose that ludicrous claim. Which would be great if that battle wasn't made up in your head. Most of the people you argued with have, early in the thread, mentioned scenarios where they expected or felt audible changes.
So let's rewind:
-Someone posts about hearing differences between amps.
- a few, including me, react by saying that a sighted test is full of uncontrolled variables like the look of the amp, or perhaps volume level differences if not checked properly, opening the door to all sorts of psychological biases and false conclusions.
- some read those critics, and instead of having to deal with something fairly complicated to solve(i.e. set up a blind test to validate their belief), plus facing the prospect of cognitive dissonance, they turned the question into something like this: "I said it sounded different, and they oppose me, so they claim the opposite, they claim all amps sound the same. Problem solved, I win!".
That is not what we claim(I already said it several times), but you know what? That too is expected of a human brain.
This is the essence of intuitive heuristics: when faced with a difficult question, we often answer an easier one instead, usually without noticing the substitution.
Daniel Kahneman
You guys can keep on having fun with false debates and distraction tactics. I'm bored now. To me, it's fairly obvious that the right options are to:
1/ get evidence before making statements about audibility.
or
2/ not bother with those annoying tests, have fun, and just be a more careful about not making claims you cannot support with evidence.
But of course you guys always want to have the cake and eat it too, make all the claims you like about sound without ever bothering to make sure you're not wrong. And we're the unreasonable ones for pointing out the obvious issue of you doing that.
That’s better! You’ve actually done a test. Great.
You think he did? I thought it was rhetorical, like "the difference is so obvious my wife could hear it blindfolded while solving a Rubik's cube underwater near the airport".