ursdiego
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Dear all !
ONE SIMPLE QUESTION:
Who has actually compared and auditioned Audio-gd's DACs, featuring the same DAC-Chips, or who knows where to find a comprehensive comparison:
"Musical with diamond differential output circuits" VERSUS "Neutral flavors" ???
Concretely:
Reference 7 (diamond) versus Reference 8 (neutral)
OR
Reference (diamond) versus RE 5 (neutral) (or DAC19 DSP, neutral too, but cheaper)
???
- How DO they sound?
- Where are the differences?
- Does "Diamond" bring an improvement, if using only a RCA/Chinch preamp?
- Or does "Diamond" add a non-natural "flavor"?
I surfed through this and other forums, but I have not found any clear answer to the above questions.
On a theoretical level (without having auditioned the DACs), I have considered two most important arguments, and one advocates FOR a "Diamond" - type DAC - the other one advocates AGAINST a "Diamond" - type DAC.
Argument for "musical, diamond" DAC: I guess, most of us use a preamp that has normal Chinch inputs. So do I. So, all the investment made into a ACSS and a balanced analog DAC output would not be for nothing. Therefore, one of those musical DACs seems more convenient at first sight.
Argument against "musical diamond" DAC and for "natural DAC": The "musical Flavour" DACs apply a special analog output stage, that audio-gd calls "Diamond differential output". Audio-gd declares, that this stage "flavours" the sound. I don't want a DAC to give music a "flavour" (personally, I would not like own tube DAC for exactly that reason). A DAC shall, in my oppinion, reproduce, what is on the CD or in the file, bit by bit into every detail (flavouring can be made, if one wants, at the amplifier stages). However, audio-gd also declares, that their "Diamond differential output" retains every detail: "high analyzing ability".
So, what I need is no theoretical considerations, as on the audio-gd's website there are plenty plenty of arguments to buy any of those dacs......
What I wish to read here are actual comparisons based on auditions! Or links to comparisons, that have been made by others.
More details about the DAC types offered by audio-gd:
Comparison level 1:
Reference 8 (Diamond, 8xPCM1704, 1650$) - Reference 7 (natural, 8xPCM1704, 1790$)
Comparison level 2:
Reference 9 (Diamond, 4xPCM1704, 1170$) - Reference 5 (Natural, 4xPCM1704, 1010$)
Comparison level "2 B": DAC 19 (Balanced, 2xPCM1704, 640$) - but there is no "Diamond" counterpart at a comparable, lower price level.
Not taken into account: NFB-7 (Balanced with 1xSabre32, 1350$), NFB-1 (Balanced with 1xSabre32, 850$).
Thanks for any helpful reply!!!
ONE SIMPLE QUESTION:
Who has actually compared and auditioned Audio-gd's DACs, featuring the same DAC-Chips, or who knows where to find a comprehensive comparison:
"Musical with diamond differential output circuits" VERSUS "Neutral flavors" ???
Concretely:
Reference 7 (diamond) versus Reference 8 (neutral)
OR
Reference (diamond) versus RE 5 (neutral) (or DAC19 DSP, neutral too, but cheaper)
???
- How DO they sound?
- Where are the differences?
- Does "Diamond" bring an improvement, if using only a RCA/Chinch preamp?
- Or does "Diamond" add a non-natural "flavor"?
I surfed through this and other forums, but I have not found any clear answer to the above questions.
On a theoretical level (without having auditioned the DACs), I have considered two most important arguments, and one advocates FOR a "Diamond" - type DAC - the other one advocates AGAINST a "Diamond" - type DAC.
Argument for "musical, diamond" DAC: I guess, most of us use a preamp that has normal Chinch inputs. So do I. So, all the investment made into a ACSS and a balanced analog DAC output would not be for nothing. Therefore, one of those musical DACs seems more convenient at first sight.
Argument against "musical diamond" DAC and for "natural DAC": The "musical Flavour" DACs apply a special analog output stage, that audio-gd calls "Diamond differential output". Audio-gd declares, that this stage "flavours" the sound. I don't want a DAC to give music a "flavour" (personally, I would not like own tube DAC for exactly that reason). A DAC shall, in my oppinion, reproduce, what is on the CD or in the file, bit by bit into every detail (flavouring can be made, if one wants, at the amplifier stages). However, audio-gd also declares, that their "Diamond differential output" retains every detail: "high analyzing ability".
So, what I need is no theoretical considerations, as on the audio-gd's website there are plenty plenty of arguments to buy any of those dacs......
What I wish to read here are actual comparisons based on auditions! Or links to comparisons, that have been made by others.
More details about the DAC types offered by audio-gd:
Comparison level 1:
Reference 8 (Diamond, 8xPCM1704, 1650$) - Reference 7 (natural, 8xPCM1704, 1790$)
Comparison level 2:
Reference 9 (Diamond, 4xPCM1704, 1170$) - Reference 5 (Natural, 4xPCM1704, 1010$)
Comparison level "2 B": DAC 19 (Balanced, 2xPCM1704, 640$) - but there is no "Diamond" counterpart at a comparable, lower price level.
Not taken into account: NFB-7 (Balanced with 1xSabre32, 1350$), NFB-1 (Balanced with 1xSabre32, 850$).
Thanks for any helpful reply!!!