[kingmajix]

I'm considering making my 770s into Darth Beyers and I was wondering - do the different woods that Larry offers have different audio properties? Or is the difference in price just due to the type and scarcity of the wood used?

Scott

 

[ford2]

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Originally Posted by kingmajix /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm considering making my 770s into Darth Beyers and I was wondering - do the different woods that Larry offers have different audio properties? Or is the difference in price just due to the type and scarcity of the wood used? Scott

I am sure the people paying those exorbitant prices would like to think they have a better sound,but its all in the looks.
Had a pair for a year ended up selling them from lack of use.
They are base heavy,and in my view give an unbalanced sound.
Its a lot of money for a bit of fancy wood,and not much else.


Ford2.

 

[Kabeer]

According to most, (and Larry I think), the different woods have little to no effect of the sound. The price differences are due to the rarity of the wood.

 

[musicman59]

Different woods have different resonance characteristics. That is why acoustic instruments are made of certain kind of woods. The harder the wood the more reflective and better resonance. Softer woods will absorb some of the sound waves damping the sound.

My 2 cents...

 

[Kabeer]

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Originally Posted by musicman59 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Different woods have different resonance characteristics. That is why acoustic instruments are made of certain kind of woods. The harder the wood the more reflective and better resonance. Softer woods will absorb some of the sound waves damping the sound. My 2 cents...

Yup thats right with instruments, but according to people who have heard different Darths, the differences are minute (maybe the wood doesnt play that much of a role in the sound in this case, like the Markl mod).

I can clearly tell the difference when playing guitars made of different woods btw, so agree with you on that.

 

[CrazyRay]

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Originally Posted by ford2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I am sure the people paying those exorbitant prices would like to think they have a better sound,but its all in the looks. Had a pair for a year ended up selling them from lack of use. They are base heavy,and in my view give an unbalanced sound. Its a lot of money for a bit of fancy wood,and not much else. Ford2.

The bass heaviness that everyone is talking about is the source and not the headphones.
I recently bought a pair of deep Morado Bolivian Rosewood V3 Darths and have been listening to mainly vinyl and tape.
The bass heaviness is completely gone!
Nice firm punch, beautiful lows and very mellow.
The bass heaviness is only there when I listen to Digital recordings and even then it is not too bad!
If you are an analog lover, by all means get the Darths! You will not be disappointed!!
And if you are a digital lover, invest in a better source.
Darths are not all hype!
They are great phones.

 

[musicman59]

There is a difference in the sound between the "standard" cups and the "deep" cups. According to many people (ask Skylab) the deep cups sound better. The bass is less agressive and with better balance. Maybe that is part of the difference in yours too.

 

[BushGuy]

My Darth choices tend to be X-Deeps, and also the 32 ohm version I bludgeoned Larry into building (brighter/more critical). I also enjoy Headphiled k340 (for Symphonies/Opera/Oratorio). Critical listening to jazz will go to Joe Grado HP-2, and also Alessandro MS Pro/flats. .............it is really dependent upon individual recordings, scope of the venue, and your particular ancilliary equipment.
But, more directly: are X-Deep Darths worth the additional money - IMO, yes. I have two pair. If you can afford 'em .........spend the money

Listening to Rosa Passos as I type - via Grado HP-2.

 

[ericj]

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Originally Posted by musicman59 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Different woods have different resonance characteristics. That is why acoustic instruments are made of certain kind of woods. The harder the wood the more reflective and better resonance. Softer woods will absorb some of the sound waves damping the sound. My 2 cents...

That's true for large, thin, flat planes of wood.

Not so much when it's thicker and has compound curves.

 

[BushGuy]

Oh, yeah, I forgot the wood question. Unless the wood thickness is in the neighborhood of 1/8" - makes NO difference. Choose whatever you prefer. My fave used to be figured Zebrawood.......now, it has become my new dealpage Koa that I really dig. It's all a matter of personal aesthetic taste.
In terms of sound quality - it is the size and shape of the cavity that Larry creates (besides other mods. to the overall product)

 

[warubozu]

IMO the type of wood used in the Darth Beyers makes a very small difference in how they sound. A bulk of the sound difference results in the enclosure mods and recabling that Larry does.

 

[Iron_Dreamer]

At least when I was helping Larry develop his first woodies, several years ago, I did hear noticeable differences in tonal emphasis between the wood cups he sent me to demo. However, this was with the CD3000 FWIW.

 

[ford2]

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Originally Posted by CrazyRay /img/forum/go_quote.gif The bass heaviness that everyone is talking about is the source and not the headphones. I recently bought a pair of deep Morado Bolivian Rosewood V3 Darths and have been listening to mainly vinyl and tape. The bass heaviness is completely gone! Nice firm punch, beautiful lows and very mellow. The bass heaviness is only there when I listen to Digital recordings and even then it is not too bad! If you are an analog lover, by all means get the Darths! You will not be disappointed!! And if you are a digital lover, invest in a better source. Darths are not all hype! They are great phones.

So RME into aria is not a good enough source.
I stick with what I said they are a well over-priced set of fancy earcups.
The reason DT 770's are/were selected for modification is because they are cheap to buy and because its very easy to change the bowls on them.
Try turning a set of SA 5000 into Woodies,that might be something that I would purchase.

Ford2:

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[grndslm]

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[ford2]

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