Darkest Desires PART THREE

[KR...]

speaking of tours :

TYPE O NEGATIVE and CRADLE OF FILTH
USA NOV/DEC 2003


13th, Thu ALBANY,NY SARATOGA WINNERS (just with COF)
14th, Fri WORCESTER,MA PALLADIUM
15th, Sat ASBURY PARK,NJ CONVENTION HALL
17th, Mon COLUMBUS,OH NEWPORT MUSIC HALL
18th, Tue GRAND RAPIDS,MI ORBIT ROOM
20th, Thu MILWAUKEE,WI THE RAVE
21st, Fri CLEVELAND,OH AGORA
22nd, Sat CHICAGO,IL RIVIERA THEATRE
24th, Mon MINNEAPOLIS,MN QUEST
25th, Tue ST. LOUIS,MO POP'S
26th, Wed OKLAHOMA CITY,OK BRICKTOWN EVENTS
28th, Fri FT. WORTH,TX RIDGLEA THEATRE
29th, Sat SAN ANTONIO,TX SUNSET STATION

DECEMBER
1st, Mon PHOENIX,AZ MARQUEE THEATRE
2nd, Tue LOS ANGELES,CA PALLADIUM 3300
3rd, Wed LAS VEGAS,NV THE JOINT or
SAN DIEGO,CA SOMA
5th, Fri SAN FRANCISCO,CA WARFIELD
6th, Sat PORTLAND,OR CRYSTAL BALLROOM
7th, Sun SEATTLE,WA SHOWBOX
9th, Tue CO. SPRINGS,CO CITY AUDITORIUM
11th, Thu DES MOINES,IA 7 FLAGS
12th, Fri DETROIT,MI STATE THEATRE
13th, Sat PITTSBURGH,PA METROPOL
15th, Mon WASHINGTON DC 930 CLUB
16th, Tue PHILADELPHIA,PA ELECTRIC FACTORY
17th, Wed HARTFORD,CT WEBSTER THEATRE (just with COF)
18th, Thu MONTREAL MEDLEY (just with COF)

EUROPE NOV 2003/JAN 2004



DECEMBER
25th , Thu HAMBURG, MARKTHALLE (GER)
26th, Fri ANTWERPEN, HOF TER LOO (BE)
27th, Sat LONDON, ASTORIA (UK)
28th, Sun UTRECHT, TIVOLI (NL)
29th, Mon TILBURG, O13 (NL)
30th, Tue KÖLN, LIVE MUSIC HALL (GER)
31st, Wed PRATTELN, Z7 (CH)

JANUARY 2004
2nd, Fri BUDAPEST, PETÖFI HALL (HUN)
3rd, Sat WIEN, PLANET MUSIC (AUT)
4th, Sun NÜRNBERGn LÖWENSAAL (GER)
5th, Mon MILAN, TRANSILVANIA (IT)
6th, Tue PARIS, ELYSEE MONMTARE (F)
7th, Wed STUTTGART, LKA (GER)
8th, Thu HALLE, EASY SCHORRE (I)

Note: Dates may be subject to small alterations and will be updated here.
Please stay tuned for more tour news and dates in Portugal, Spain, Greece and Turkey.

http://www.moonspell.com/index.html

 

[scottder]

Picked up Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (Deluxe Edition) today, haven't had a chance to list yet.

 

[SPLASTiK]

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkAngel I don't have my individual CDs anymore since I sold them as soon as double CDs arrived, but check your copy of: MERCYFUL FATE - Mellissa and see who has the remaster credits for 1997, the new double CDs are: Chris Gehringer at Hits Factory NYC (but no date listed) When I did a quick check before selling I thought old CD had different person listed for remaster, but could be mistaken since it was just a quick look.

Same Guy, Same place, Same Bonus Tracks.
I beleive they're just reissues then, how's the new liner notes though?

 

[DarkAngel]

Quote:

Originally posted by scottder Picked up Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (Deluxe Edition) today, haven't had a chance to list yet.

I can't even begin to describe how great this album is, best Dimmu work musically, best vocals on any Dimmu album by Shagrath, in my top 3 all time dark metal list......in a word "godlike"

 

[scottder]

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkAngel I can't even begin to describe how great this album is, best Dimmu work musically, best vocals on any Dimmu album by Shagrath, in my top 3 all time dark metal list......in a word "godlike"

Wanna share the rest of that list

 

[DarkAngel]

Quote:

Originally posted by scottder Wanna share the rest of that list

OK, old list is in closed "darkest desire II" thread so I had better update the master list, made 3-4 new entries and changed order a bit to reflect new thinking since 4/2003.

Top 30 Melodic Dark Metal 10/2003
In order of preference, one listing per group

1)Cradle of Filth - Dusk & Her Embrace (most COF Cds are great)

2)Opeth - Morningrise (all Cds are essential except Damnation)

3)Nockturnal Mortum - Lunar Poetry (also Goathorn)

4)Tristania - Beyond the Veil (also Widow Weeds)

5)Dimmu Bogir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (also PEM, DCA, Stromblast)

6)Therion - Theli (also Vovin, Deggial, Secret of Runes)

7)Naglfar - Vittra

8)Dissection - Storm in Lights Bane

9)Vinterland - Welcome My last Chapter

10)Edge of Sanity - Crimson (also Crimson II, Purgatory Afterglow, Spectral Sorrows)

11)Immortal - Sons of Nothern Darkness (also Heart of Winter)

12)Satyricon - Shadowthrone (also Dark Medievil Times, Nemisis Divinia)

13)In Flames - Jester Race/Black Ash Inheritance (also Whoralce, Colony, Clayman and Lunar Strain/Subterrian)

14)Carpathian Forest - Black Shining Leather

15)Graveland - Celtic Winter (also 1000 Swords, Immortal Pride, Carpathian Wolves)

16)Arch Enemy - Wages of Sin (all AE albums are great)

17)Old Man's Child - Ill Natured Spiritual Invasion (also Pagan Prosperity, Born of Flickering)

18)Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder (also Something Wild, Follow Reaper)

19)Katatonia - Brave Murder Day (also December Souls)

20)Emperor - Nightside Eclipse (also Anthems to Welkin)

21)Moonsorrow - Kivenkantaja (also Voimasta Ja Kunniasta)

22)Abigor - Nachtynmen (also Invoke the Dark Age)

23)Summoning - Minas Morgul (also Stronghold, Dol Guldur)

24)Enslaved - Frost (also Eld)

25)Taake - Nattestid (also Bjoergvin)

26)Ancient - Svartlvheim (also Cainian Chronicle)

27)Dark Tranquility - Damage Done (also Gallery, Haven)

28)Witchery - Symphony for the Devil

29)Agathodaimon - Chapter III (also Blacken Angel, Rebellion)

30)Graveworm - Source of Malice (also Angels Beauty)

 

[scottder]

Cool, thanks for the list

I am laying off buying new CDs for a bit so I can buy some new cans. But I'll put these on my list

 

[scottder]

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkAngel I can't even begin to describe how great this album is, best Dimmu work musically, best vocals on any Dimmu album by Shagrath, in my top 3 all time dark metal list......in a word "godlike"

Been listening to it over the weekend and it's another one that is growing on me. It's a keeper

I also watched the video on it, they are ummm....interesting looking guys.

 

[Mr.PD]

You guys may like Dimmu Borgir's EDT best and it may be great, but I have been listening to DCA all day today. I gotta say this is my favorite Dimmu Borgir album.
Yes, the extra bucks for the digipak were worth it. This is the best packaging of a CD I have ever seen. I love all the twisted ways they use car parts for art here. I even bought the Tshirt to go along with the album.

I also listened to Mercyful Fate Melissa. Sounds like Iron Maiden to me.

I am not impressed. I will give the other CD a listen when my mood better suits this kind of music.

Okay, what video are you reffering to scottder? Did I miss a video version of EDT? Mine does not have a video.

 

[scottder]

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.PD You guys may like Dimmu Borgir's EDT best and it may be great, but I have been listening to DCA all day today. I gotta say this is my favorite Dimmu Borgir album. Yes, the extra bucks for the digipak were worth it. This is the best packaging of a CD I have ever seen. I love all the twisted ways they use car parts for art here. I even bought the Tshirt to go along with the album.

I think they are very different albums at heart, both are great, in different ways

Quote:

I also listened to Mercyful Fate Melissa. Sounds like Iron Maiden to me. I am not impressed. I will give the other CD a listen when my mood better suits this kind of music. Okay, what video are you reffering to scottder? Did I miss a video version of EDT? Mine does not have a video.

The 'Delux Edition' EDT has some extras,video, wallpaper, win amp skins, and an extra track.

Scott

 

[DarkAngel]

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.PD You guys may like Dimmu Borgir's EDT best and it may be great, but I have been listening to DCA all day today. I gotta say this is my favorite Dimmu Borgir album. Yes, the extra bucks for the digipak were worth it. This is the best packaging of a CD I have ever seen. I love all the twisted ways they use car parts for art here. I even bought the Tshirt to go along with the album. I also listened to Mercyful Fate Melissa. Sounds like Iron Maiden to me. I am not impressed. I will give the other CD a listen when my mood better suits this kind of music. Okay, what video are you reffering to scottder? Did I miss a video version of EDT? Mine does not have a video.

Yes the Dimmu DCA digipak + bonus track are worth couple extra bucks, very nice package.

Dimmu EDT vs DCA is very much like COF Dusk vs Damnation, EDT is the golden age with slower tempos and only keyboard used to develop atmosphere, Shagrath vocals are more evil etc. DCA has faster tempos and many new sound elements other vocalists, more complex mixture of elements.(like COF Damnation)

Quality wise I will take EDT any day over DCA, but that doesn't mean DCA is bad.........just that EDT is godlike.

Yes Mercyful Fate "melissa" is similar to Iron Maiden from same time period musically (KD vocals are unique) but is that really a bad thing?

 

[Mr.PD]

Damn you DarkAngel!
Why did you have to compare DCA to Damnation? Now all I'm hearing is overproduced messes.

Actually, I do understand where you are coming from here. I may even have to agree with you, somewhat. I gotta tell you that listening to this through the phones is leaving a very different impression than what I got yesterday with speakers in the garage. See, we listened to EDT in the car on Sunday, then Monday DCA arrives and I was busy in the garage so I played it out there. When comparing these with sub-par music systems, the nod goes to DCA. In the car (SUV) we could hardly hear the vocals on EDT, the music is vastly different sounding. So, with that being my freshest memory of EDT my comparison may have been skewered.
But,........... I do like the faster tempo, and more elements here. I just listened to the first 3 tracks of EDT and the first 3 tracks of DCA. (headphones+good source) and I am still liking DCA better. It's hard to call one technically better, I just prefer DCA. They are different, and I like them both, very well. I wish I had a "deluxe" copy of EDT.

I wish I could say I like both albums of COF that we just mentioned. I still have not been able to accept Damnation.

 

[scottder]

IMHO, EDT has more edge to it, it's more intense, while DCA has the orchestral bits. They both have a place in my listening, depends on my mood

Scott

PS - As DarkAngel said, yes Melissa sounds very similar, but are from around the same time. Speaking of which, anyone heard the latest King Diamond Puppet Master

 

[Dusty Chalk]

Don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but according to AMG, new albums from Khanate (Things Viral) and Crown (Possessed 13 w/bonus DVD) come out today.

 

[scottder]

Seems like "Bonus DVDs" are the new marekting gimmick for albums, but hey the more material the better